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We have @EUCommission [rightfully!] crack down on #cars and their #emissions by demanding ever lower #FleetEmissions and #FuelConsumption numbers but still accept #Bloatware like shitty #WebApps and #Windows11 to demand so much #WastefulComputing that it's painful.

  • Like Margaret Hammond and Grace Hopper would be shaking their heads in agony, pointing out how they got people on the moon with less storage than the SPD-ROM on a RAM stick and how their programming language still runs #TradFinance respectably, but somehow sending text messages is too much for a machine that costs €499 yet has more computational power than all the machines they worked on combined.

#WastefulComputing like all those phat & enshittified messengers should be illegal.

  • Espechally since they have 0 reason to be that resource intensive, even if we believe some of their security-focussed marketing lies.
Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)For those who don't know the [size of the problem]( https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862595629371002): In 2006 I bought a new [entry level] Computer with 256 MB of RAM and a single-core P4 Celeron with 2,8 GHz. - This thing ran #WindowsXP and #NeedForSpeedMostWanted just fine. - Nowadays it would crash trying to open #Slack even on a minimalist #Linux distro like @bunsenlabs@linuxrocks.online even when using @dillo@fosstodon.org ... And now imagine that some folks have to use #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, #Telegram, #Signal, #WhatApp, #WeChat, #QQ and #LineMessenger at the same time, and you can imagine that this will make entry-level desktops already scream harder than if someone were to loop the *Lost Coast benchmark* on them... - The #bloat of modern #WebApps is just the *socially accepted equivalent* to #Cryptojacking desktops and driving some *phat* #SuperUselessVehicle just to get less than a kg of groceries at a walking distance supermarket.
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Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)One thing that really pisses me off personally is the #regression in terms of #Messenger #Apps. My personal distaste and dislike for #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #services like #Signal [¹](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036), #Telegram, #Discord [²](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114865723904157014), #WhatsApp, #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, etc. aside: - *WHY* is there no #CrossProvider #Messenger to handle that shite? - *WHY* does everyone of these shitty providers think people want to download their #bloated #WebApp that takes up triple digit Megabytes if not entire Gigabytes and will gobble up all the #RAM and #CPU they can?? This problem ain't new and *already got [solved for corporate social media](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862619013462466) ages ago!* (Not to mention actually good messengers!) - And no, [bridges](https://toots.ch/@dalai/114862754556459439) *[don't](https://swecyb.com/@troed/114862774972645542) count*! - I mean `API 0` - [style](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685423773959519) access because obviously [none of the platforms](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685414638522984) will *allow, endorse or support such an endeavour* and [*actively fight the developers and users*](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685441496803574) ! So yeah, consider this a call for a @gajim@fosstodon.org / #Gajim or @pidgin@fosstodon.org / #Pidgin *for garbage platforms!* - Cuz back in the day we had *way worse messengers* yet people actually made #AIM, #ICQ, #MSN, #QQ, #IRC & #XMPP work just fine from one single *"phat" client*! - Can we please get that back? #api0 #Enshittification

Windows 11 25H2 introduces a native feature to remove pre-installed Microsoft Store apps considered bloatware 🧹

Users can now easily customize fresh installs by choosing which default apps to keep or discard, without using PowerShell or third-party tools ⚙️

This improves system cleanliness and user control over their devices 🔧
Expected public release later in 2025.

tweaktown.com/news/106306/micr

Nobody: "How much bullshit can we shove into our website?"

#deel: YES!

And that's just the crap that #uBlockOrigin and #NoScript caught:

deel.com
api.deel.com
app.deel.com
amazonaws.com
a569f72b706584c51b5f33f0e47ccd30-e12968bbf00b014c.elb.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com
wiki.deel.network
braze.com
sdk.iad-06.braze.com
cal.com
app.cal.com
calendly.com
assets.calendly.com
chilipiper.com
js.chilipiper.com
com.cdn.cloudflare.net
api.deel.com.cdn.cloudflare.net
api.deel.com
d20qeu5vw8i5t2.cloudfront.net
cdn.zapier.com
d3kz3mviooatoq.cloudfront.net
avatars.slack-edge.com
deel.network
wiki.deel.network
deel.tools
openreplay-new.deel.tools
google.com
apis.google.com
www.google.com
googletagmanager.com
www.googletagmanager.com
gstatic.com
fonts.gstatic.com
www.gstatic.com
k8s-openrepl-awsalbin-ed4c403a34-602701419.eu-west-1.elb.amazonaws.com
openreplay-new.deel.tools
letsdeel.com
media.letsdeel.com
s3.amazonaws.com
sammylabs.com
api.sammylabs.com
sentry.io
o265775.ingest.sentry.io
slack-edge.com
avatars.slack-edge.com
stripe.com
js.stripe.com
m.stripe.com
q.stripe.com
stripe.network
m.stripe.network
stripecdn.map.fastly.net
m.stripe.network
zapier.com
cdn.zapier.com
 …deel.com
…braze.com
…cal.com
…calendly.com
…chilipiper.com
…deel.network
…deel.tools
…google.com
…googletagmanager.com
…gstatic.com
…s3.amazonaws.com
…sammylabs.com
…stripe.com
…stripe.network
…zapier.com

Seriously, I get that not everyone is able to do #accessible and #performant #forms and #Websites and that #JavaScript is trendy and hip.

  • But this seriously isn't funny anymore, but insulting!
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@patpro Thats not software but #bloatware like my office smartphone which is a samsung. Slow as hell and a half-hour update every 14 days. Compared to my #fairphone with #eos from @murena which boots in seconds, autoblocks ad trackers and has also smileys!! I love it but it's not for everyone.

If you want me to tell you about downsides just ask 😃

For any #MTCP, #DOS and #Retrocomputing nerds out there who are also running httpserv and want pretty graphs, poke me for a recipe for a hideosly bloated #logstash configuration to ingest the UDP logs.

I feed it to #Graylog which stores the data in #Opensearch - a pipeline that combined (and this is accurate) needs, conservatively, 4096 times as much RAM as the floppy museum itself (8MB).

And while looking at this when making this screenshot: I wonder why someone would hit http//floppy.museum with a Referer-header indicating they come from a salesforce-dot-com address? http-colon-slashslash-136.146.46.127 (about halfway down the list).

Anyone else noticed that Telus is force installing apps like TikTok?

Purchased brand new phone from manufacturer which does not have TikTok installed on it.

Brand new SIM card from Telus.

Add SIM to phone, create new gmail account and DE-select the apps set to automatically install during device setup.

Go to google play store, select App updates and while updating the installed apps, it downloads and installs TIKTOK, BOOKING.COM, AMAZON MUSIC, YOUTUBE, LINKEDIN