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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@leachimus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>leachimus</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@dideldum" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dideldum</span></a></span> ja, beide Systeme wurden - genauso <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a> - durch beschissene Designentscheidung|en, vergeigt.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114184457498368930" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1141844</span><span class="invisible">57498368930</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@dideldum" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dideldum</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@leachimus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>leachimus</span></a></span> ganz einfach:</p><ul><li>Weil keiner ne schlechtere <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/girocard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>girocard</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/maestro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>maestro</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ec</span></a> - Kopie mehr braucht! Hatten wir schon, nannte sich <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a>! </li></ul><p>Entweder muss nen Zahlungssystem sowohl in-Person als auch online funktionieren oder es wird in beiden Märkten gekilled.</p><ul><li>Außerdem nutze ich aus Prinzip keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Banking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Banking</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Apps</span></a> weil die <em>NACHWEISLICH ALLE SHICE SIND</em>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@kalivene" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kalivene</span></a></span> ganz einfach: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/wero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wero</span></a> ist für'n Arsch weil <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/unbequemer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>unbequemer</span></a>, weniger flexibel, schlechter verbreitet und wohl auch nicht billiger für Händler oder Kunden...</p><ul><li>Das <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tripol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tripol</span></a> aus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VISA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VISA</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MasterCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MasterCard</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PayPal</span></a> ist kein Naturgesetz sondern ein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Versagen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Versagen</span></a> des <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wettbewerbs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wettbewerbs</span></a> <em>und</em> der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Regulierungsbeh%C3%B6rden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Regulierungsbehörden</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Eher werden wir <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> als Mainstream-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zahlungsmethode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Zahlungsmethode</span></a> sehen als eine rein auf die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> beschränkte Konkurrenz.</p><ul><li>Die Leute hinter wero haben <em>EXAKT NULL</em> aus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eurocash" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eurocash</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eurocheque" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eurocheque</span></a> und Co. gelernt.</li></ul><p>Merke: Wenn's nicht <em>global verfügbar</em> ist wird's allenfalls ne lokale Nische erfüllen.</p><ul><li>Und für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verbraucher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verbraucher</span></a>*innen ist wero mangels <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Akzeptanz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Akzeptanz</span></a> weniger nützlich als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WeChatPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WeChatPay</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AliPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AliPay</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnionPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UnionPay</span></a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Deutschland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Deutschland</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Allein vom <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Onboarding" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Onboarding</span></a> und der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UX</span></a> ist wero komplett durchgefallen im Vergleich zu <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PayPal</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Klarna" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Klarna</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@unseenjapan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>unseenjapan</span></a></span> I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/pasmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pasmo</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Suica" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Suica</span></a> (as well as other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FeliCa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FeliCa</span></a>-based systems like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Octopus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Octopus</span></a>) are really super convenient in terms of Pre-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NFC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NFC</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RFIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RFIC</span></a>-based <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cashless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cashless</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/payment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>payment</span></a> systems, to the point that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/vPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vPay</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPass" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PayPass</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/girocard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>girocard</span></a> (as well as the flopped <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a>) are just bad imitations of those!</p>
Marc-Oliver Schaake<p>Reminder an alle Dinosaurier, die noch Guthaben auf ihrer <a href="https://bahn.social/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a> haben: Bis 31.03.25 könnt ihr das noch bei eurer Bank oder Sparkasse entladen. Seit Mitternacht ist das System endgültig Geschichte.</p>
Martha Kiel<p><b>Bezahlkarten Bullshit - Soliparty im Subrosa</b></p><p><b>Am 7. Dezember im <a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=Subrosa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Subrosa</span></a></b></p><p>Anfang 2025 wird die Bezahlkarte für gestattete und geduldete <a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=Fl%C3%BCchtlinge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Flüchtlinge</span></a> eingeführt. Dabei werden die Leistungen nach dem <a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=Asylbewerberleistungsgesetz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Asylbewerberleistungsgesetz</span></a> auf die <a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=Geldkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geldkarte</span></a> geladen. Diese schränkt den bargeldlosen Zahlungsverkehr ein (keine Überweisungen ins Ausland möglich, im Inland müssen sie behördlich freigegeben werden), erlaubt nur das Abheben von 50€ Bargeld im Monat und ist nur in Schleswig-Holstein gültig.<br>Es handelt sich also um eine starke Einschränkung der Selbstbestimmung und um ein diskriminierendes und demütigendes Bezahlsystem.</p><p>Die Anti-Bezahlkarten Gruppe, bestehend aus Aktiven aus dem Stadtteilladen Anni Wadle, der Seebrücke und vom <a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=nara" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nara</span></a> (netzwerk antirassistische Aktion), wird zur Einführung der Bezahlkarte eine Tauschstelle im <a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=Stadtteilladen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Stadtteilladen</span></a> Anni Wadle einrichten, an der von Geflüchteten gekaufte Gutscheine von Lebensmittelgeschäften gegen Bargeld von Nicht-Betroffenen eingetauscht werden können.<br>Für dieses Tauschprinzip braucht es einerseits viele Teilnehmende und andererseits einen Geldpuffer, damit bei einem Ungleichgewicht der Teilnehmenden das Tauschsystem nicht zusammenbricht.</p><p>Aus diesem Grund lädt das Subrosa zu einer <a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=Anti-Bezahlkarten-Soli-Veranstaltung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Anti-Bezahlkarten-Soli-Veranstaltung</span></a> <b>am 07.12. im Subrosa</b> ein. Los geht es um 20 Uhr mit einem kleinen Input zur Bezahlkarte und dem Tauschsystem, anschließend findet eine Bullshit-Versteigerung mit dem Erlös für die AG Anti-Bezahlkarte statt und danach lassen wir den Abend mit Karaoke ausklingen.</p><p>Wenn ihr also versteigerungswürdige Dinge zuhause rumfliegen habt, die ihr nicht mehr braucht, bringt sie entweder während der Öffnungszeiten ins Rosi oder an dem Abend der Veranstaltung mit.</p><p>Das Subrosa Kollektiv mit dem Stadtteilladen Anni Wadle, der <a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=Seebr%C3%BCcke" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Seebrücke</span></a> und dem <a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=nara" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nara</span></a></p><p><a href="https://friendica.xyz/search?tag=AnniWadle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AnniWadle</span></a><br><a href="https://subrosa.gaarden.net/2024/11/22/07-12-24-subrosa-dubiosa-anti-bezahlkarten-soli-party" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">07.12.24 Subrosa Dubiosa Anti-Bezahlkarten-Soli-Party – SUBROSA</a></p>
KielKontrovers Blog<p>Kiel: Bargeldloses Zahlen von Tickets in Bussen soll bald möglich sein</p><p><a href="https://www.kn-online.de/lokales/kiel/kiel-bargeldloses-zahlen-von-tickets-in-bussen-soll-bald-moeglich-sein-BCMVAHMVEZBZBKVSZU2UL3MGRQ.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">kn-online.de/lokales/kiel/kiel</span><span class="invisible">-bargeldloses-zahlen-von-tickets-in-bussen-soll-bald-moeglich-sein-BCMVAHMVEZBZBKVSZU2UL3MGRQ.html</span></a></p><p>Hatten wir ja alles schon in Kiel, einige werden sich erinnern. Das Bezahlen mit der <a href="https://norden.social/tags/Geldkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geldkarte</span></a> war möglich. Wurde dann aber wieder abgeschafft.</p>
Hamburg und Umzu<p>Hamburger Bündnis protestiert gegen Bezahlkarte für Geflüchtete</p><p>Statt Bargeld erhalten Geflüchtete in Hamburg seit Jahresbeginn eine Bezahlkarte. Gegen diese Karte wird heute demonstriert.</p><p><a href="https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Hamburger-Buendnis-protestiert-gegen-Bezahlkarte-fuer-Gefluechtete,bezahlkarte138.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Ham</span><span class="invisible">burger-Buendnis-protestiert-gegen-Bezahlkarte-fuer-Gefluechtete,bezahlkarte138.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Asyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Asyl</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Asylpolitik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Asylpolitik</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gefl%C3%BCchtete" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geflüchtete</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fl%C3%BCchtlinge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Flüchtlinge</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bezahlkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bezahlkarte</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Geldkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geldkarte</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialCard</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HamburgNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HamburgNews</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamburg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hamburg</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://dresden.network/@Jakob_Krakel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Jakob_Krakel</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://dresden.network/@dissidentinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dissidentinnen</span></a></span> So oder so gehört die "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bezahlkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bezahlkarte</span></a>" aka. <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AntisozialKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AntisozialKarte</span></a>"</em> oder auch <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a>, nur beschissener!"</em> nicht nur abgeschafft sondern verboten und ich hoffe inständig Betroffene werden rückwirkend <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/entsch%C3%A4figt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>entschäfigt</span></a> angesichts der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Entw%C3%BCrdigung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Entwürdigung</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diskriminierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diskriminierung</span></a> die diese erfahren (haben)...</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WasDuErlaubstWirdWeiterGetanWerden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WasDuErlaubstWirdWeiterGetanWerden</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WasDuErlaubstWirdFortbestehen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WasDuErlaubstWirdFortbestehen</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WasDuErlaubstWirdWeiterBestehen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WasDuErlaubstWirdWeiterBestehen</span></a> <br><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobbingKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobbingKarte</span></a></p>
MParsec<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://podcasts.social/@lnp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lnp</span></a></span> Ich frage mich bei der <a href="https://ruhr.social/tags/Geldkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geldkarte</span></a> ,was passiert bei einer Durchsuchung wenn man Bargeld,bei den Leuten findet und welche Unterstellungen,die Behörden sich dann aus den fingern saugen? Drogenhandel Helerei ect. PP Was ein Menschverachtender scheiß</p>
Hamburg und Umzu<p>Hamburg: Sozialbehörde zufrieden mit Bezahlkarte für Geflüchtete</p><p>Bereits mehr als 350 der "Social Cards" wurden in Hamburg ausgegeben. Die Kritik seitens der rot-grünen Regierung bleibt jedoch.</p><p><a href="https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Hamburg-Sozialbehoerde-zufrieden-mit-Bezahlkarte-fuer-Gefluechtete,bezahlkarte132.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Ham</span><span class="invisible">burg-Sozialbehoerde-zufrieden-mit-Bezahlkarte-fuer-Gefluechtete,bezahlkarte132.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Asyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Asyl</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Asylpolitik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Asylpolitik</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gefl%C3%BCchtete" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geflüchtete</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fl%C3%BCchtlinge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Flüchtlinge</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bezahlkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bezahlkarte</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Geldkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geldkarte</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialCard</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HamburgNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HamburgNews</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamburg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hamburg</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@prestontumber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>prestontumber</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pluralistic</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@rvkennedy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rvkennedy</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@theoldbeginner" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>theoldbeginner</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@JorgeStolfi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>JorgeStolfi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://me.dm/@funcrunch" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>funcrunch</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@kcoyle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kcoyle</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://newsie.social/@Runyan50" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Runyan50</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toad.social/@KimPerales" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>KimPerales</span></a></span> </p><p>Problem is that their business model should not exist to begin with.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CreditCards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CreditCards</span></a> suck - period!<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqhGyLP9Q0o" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=wqhGyLP9Q0</span><span class="invisible">o</span></a></p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SEPA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SEPA</span></a> wire transfers and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ec</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/giropay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>giropay</span></a> work way better and have way higher adoption and acceptance in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> due to lower fees and not requiring someone to have yet another contract with yet another value-removing middlemen!</p><p>That being said, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cashless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cashless</span></a> payment systems that ain't that well integrated died out for that reason, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a>, which was a bankless prepaid cash card [similar to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pasmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Pasmo</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Suica" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Suica</span></a>, but instead of using Sony's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FeliCa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FeliCa</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RFID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RFID</span></a> tech it used <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Chip</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PIN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PIN</span></a> tech] that suffered from the fact that it required people to manually top it up and so it was rarely used by few people - like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Payphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Payphone</span></a>-Card... </p><p>Case in point: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cash" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cash</span></a> just works and we should fight for it's continued existance unless we can abolish <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>capitalism</span></a> instead, then we should do that!</p>
Iris Volk<p>Denke über eine <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Geldkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geldkarte</span></a> für Abgeordnete nach. Die kaufen sich sonst doch nur wieder Alkohol. 🤡 <a href="https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/buergergeld-cdu-fdp-100.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">tagesschau.de/inland/innenpoli</span><span class="invisible">tik/buergergeld-cdu-fdp-100.html</span></a></p>
Andreas Wieland<p>Ich kann mir schon lebhaft vorstellen, wie diese <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Geldkarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Geldkarte</span></a> für <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Asylbewerber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Asylbewerber</span></a>, die <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/kretschmann" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>kretschmann</span></a> so gut findet, umgesetzt wird:<br>Ein Konsortium aus <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/SAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SAP</span></a> , <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Bosch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bosch</span></a> und der <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Postbank" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Postbank</span></a> bekommt für wenige Milliarden den Zuschlag. Leider gibt es Schwierigkeiten bei der Einführung, sodass die <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Tafeln" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tafeln</span></a> in der Folge die Asylbewerberunterkünfte versorgen müssen. Nach 6 Monaten wird alles wieder eingestampft - nur die Tafeln bleiben...<br><a href="https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/kretschmann-will-irregulaere-migration-eindaemmen-100.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuertt</span><span class="invisible">emberg/kretschmann-will-irregulaere-migration-eindaemmen-100.html</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://todon.eu/@maxi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>maxi</span></a></span> but then again: Neither endorsement nor advice.</p><p>If it was my decision, the block rate would be at 1 second so it was fast enough for checkouts at a cashier with 3+ confirmations.</p><p>OFC nothing prevents a traditional <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PaymentProcessor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PaymentProcessor</span></a> from accepting <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> :monero: instead of or besides <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AMEX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AMEX</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/VISA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VISA</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MasterCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MasterCard</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Maestro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Maestro</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/girocard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>girocard</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AliPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AliPay</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/JCB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JCB</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/UnionPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UnionPay</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ApplePay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ApplePay</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SamsungPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SamsungPay</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GooglePay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GooglePay</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SMSpayment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SMSpayment</span></a> or even <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a> besides their stubbornness to remain irreplaceable middle-men.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://0w0.is/users/FawnOverFun" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>FawnOverFun</span></a></span> AFAIK both <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/CashApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CashApp</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Venmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Venmo</span></a> are U.S. exclusive since they don't want to comply with stricter <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AML</span></a> laws in the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a>. </p><p>Sadly, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PayPal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PayPal</span></a> seems to basically be the monopoly, as <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/WeChatPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WeChatPay</span></a> doesn't work outside of china and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AliPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AliPay</span></a> won't tell you it doesn't work until after their <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> shit. </p><p>Sadly, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> acceptance is basically nonexistant and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/debit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>debit</span></a> card systems like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a> are not only rarely international and they decline hard like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SMS</span></a>- &amp; <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MobileBanking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileBanking</span></a>.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.heise.de/@heiseonline" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>heiseonline</span></a></span> Vorallem: Was außer <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Buchgeld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Buchgeld</span></a> - wie es bereits vor'm <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Euro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Euro</span></a> eingeführt wurde - soll's sein?</p><p>Irgendein <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>?? <br><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GeldKarte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeldKarte</span></a> 2.0???</p>