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Luis Guzman<p>I'm currently testing the packaging of <a href="https://toot.community/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a> for <a href="https://toot.community/tags/Trisquel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trisquel</span></a> 12 (Ecne) 😎 and I'm looking for testers from frequent users of the browser 👀</p><p>This complements the improvements in browser availability for the upcoming Trisquel release, alongside <a href="https://toot.community/tags/UngoogledChromium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UngoogledChromium</span></a>, which is already available from the .deb repo.</p><p>The work will focus mainly on packaging.</p><p>Any issues not related to the packaging process should be reported upstream, thanks for your understanding.</p><p>Thanks in advance, and cheers! o/</p>
Luis Guzman<p>Estoy haciendo pruebas para empaquetar <a href="https://toot.community/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a> en <a href="https://toot.community/tags/Trisquel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trisquel</span></a> 12 (Ecne) 😎 y busco colaboración de personas que lo usen frecuentemente 👀 </p><p>Esto complementa la mejora en oferta de navegadores para la siguiente versión de Trisquel, junto a <a href="https://toot.community/tags/UngoogledChromium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UngoogledChromium</span></a> ya disponible desde el repo .deb.</p><p>El trabajo se centrará en el empaquetado, con cambios mínimos. Problemas no relacionados deberán reportarse al proyecto upstream, agradezco su comprensión.</p><p>¡Gracias de antemano y saludos! o/</p>
PaulaToThePeople 😷<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@morfil" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>morfil</span></a></span> Then <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/MissKey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MissKey</span></a> or one of its forks might be more interesting to you than Mastodon.</p><p>I tried <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a> for a while and it did have quite some cool features.</p>
jordi :verified:<p><a href="https://mastodont.cat/tags/icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>icecat</span></a> <br>Si en teniu opinió compartiu-la si us plau.<br>Jo ja m'he llançat a provar-ho :)</p>
jordi :verified:<p>L'IceCat aquest, què tal?<br><a href="https://mastodont.cat/tags/icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>icecat</span></a> <br><a href="https://masto.es/@tecnotestering/114766337766046299" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">masto.es/@tecnotestering/11476</span><span class="invisible">6337766046299</span></a></p>
🚀 Несерьёзный Выдумщик 👨‍🔬<p>Не надо использовать в качестве DNS-over-HTTPS сервисы от <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/Google" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Google</a> и той же <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/Cloudflare" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Cloudflare</a>, полно <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/notes/a9i2zqrcu9" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">других вариантов</a>. Нет смысла кормите данными о себе таких больших и наглых уродов, которые любят <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/notes/a9izcgnbtj" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">смотреть в чужой TLS-трафик</a><span>. И во многих отношениях ставших вахтёром не пускающим в интернеты «неправильные» веб-браузеры.<br><br>За последние десять лет к </span><a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/Cloudflare" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Cloudflare</a><span> накопилось множество претензий по тому, каким образом работает в техническом плане. И насколько является открытой и лживой по тому, чтобы признавать имеющиеся проблемы. Насколько это важно для интернетов? Оценочно, примерно 20% всего интернет-трафика проходит непосредственно через инфраструктуру Cloudflare.<br><br>Если пакет подключённых услуг включает Web Application Firewall </span><a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/WAF" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WAF</a><span>, то проблем с доступом к защищённому веб-сайту\онлайн-сервисам не возникает лишь у тех, кто пользуется за Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Apple Safari и Microsoft Edge, но далеко не всех версий, а лишь актуальных. <br><br>Когда у пользователя </span><a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/Firefox" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a><span> 115 ESR, появившийся в ноябре 2024 г., то у него уже будет проблемы с доступом — хотя Cloudflare и отрицает, что её ML-система блокирует работу с такими браузерами.<br>Так же Cloudflare, весьма часто не хочет работать с </span><a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/PaleMoon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PaleMoon</a>, <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/SeaMonkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SeaMonkey</a>, <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/IceCat" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IceCat</a>, <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/Basilisk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Basilisk</a>, <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/Falkon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Falkon</a>. Т.е. за бортом остаются браузеры сделанные на <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/Goanna" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Goanna</a> — это хорошо известный форк мозиловского движка <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/Gecko" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gecko</a>. Или на том же QtWebKit ставшим уже Qt <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/WebEngine" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebEngine</a><span>.<br><br>Хочешь зайти на сайты использующие Cloudflare — будь готов подделывать User agent, это сегодня, а завтра ещё что-нибудь. При этом официально компания хоть как-то реагировать и шевелиться на подобные проблемы начинает лишь после серьёзной шумихе и волне в СМИ.<br>Да 20% мирового интернет-трафика не означает 20% всех сайтов или веб-сервисов в интернете, но это такие сервисы как научный журнал Science или тот же Steam (игровая платформа).<br><br>Когда рынок сходит с ума, то всем или терпеть и работать закусив удила, всячески уповая на «само пройдёт» или нужен госрегулятор в качестве арбитра для оценки расклада и установки правил. Как в секторе ценных бумаг и биржевых торгов или в плане соблюдения антимонопольных и антитрастовых норм теории игр.<br><br></span><a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/internet" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#internet</a> <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/antitrust" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#antitrust</a> <a href="https://shitpost.poridge.club/tags/DoH" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DoH</a> <a href="https://social.sley.nl/@rur" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@rur@social.sley.nl</a></p>
Diego Córdoba 🇦🇷<p>Acabo de instalar <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a> en <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/ArchLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ArchLinux</span></a>, fork de <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> totalmente libre distribuido por el proyecto <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/gnu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gnu</span></a>. </p><p>Sabía que existía como fork de Firefox, pero acabo de descubrir felizmente que es el nuevo nombre del <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/iceweasel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>iceweasel</span></a> que usaba hace lustros en Debian mmm.... 5 tal vez!</p><p>Me encantaba ese browser, minimalista, sencillo y rápido.</p><p>Más razones para darle una oportunidad 😃</p>
𝓜𝓪𝓻𝓬 𝓐𝓷𝓰𝓮𝓵<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>icecat</span></a></p>
Privacy Project<p>Just found by accident a great keyboard shortcut in the Brave browser, firefox &amp; IceCat.<br>Ctrl-Shift+Del will open the "delete browsing data" dialog.<br>Never knew this before (I'm sure others did) but it's really cool!</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/brave" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>brave</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browser</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>icecat</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>firefox</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/shortcut" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>shortcut</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/keyboard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>keyboard</span></a></p>
Privacy Project<p>My recent post regarding <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>icecat</span></a> browser extensions getting disabled has resolved itself. Not sure how though.</p><p>No changes made.......but all working now. It was really bad to happen and shows that even more things are beyond our own control and always rely on something behind the scenes to function.</p><p>At least it's working now. <br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browser</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>firefox</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/addons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>addons</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/gnu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gnu</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a></p>
Privacy Project<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a> extensions disabled because they're not verified?!!</p><p>WTF is this BS?!</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browser</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>firefox</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/addons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>addons</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/gnu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gnu</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a></p>
Paul Giulan<p>A look at <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> forks </p><p><a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/1012453/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">lwn.net/Articles/1012453/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://federate.social/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GNU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GNU</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Floorp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Floorp</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/LibreWolf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LibreWolf</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Zen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zen</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Basilisk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Basilisk</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Waterfox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Waterfox</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/PaleMoon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PaleMoon</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/SeaMonkey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SeaMonkey</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browser</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/browsers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browsers</span></a></p>
niu tech<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Mojeek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mojeek</span></a></span> You forgot about <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/GNU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GNU</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a>: <a href="https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
@francks<p>A lire comme ça, les alternatives à <a href="https://mstdn.fr/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a>, ça peut paraître simple, alors que ce n'est pas si évident, à l'installation, ni à l'utilisation / changement d'habitude. En cours d'essayage ici, l'usage de <a href="https://mstdn.fr/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a> et de <a href="https://mstdn.fr/tags/TorBrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TorBrowser</span></a> qui annoncent un certain niveau de respect des données personelles. Je n'ai pas le même niveau d'infos pour <a href="https://mstdn.fr/tags/Konqueror" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Konqueror</span></a> et <a href="https://mstdn.fr/tags/Chromium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chromium</span></a>.<br>Là je suis sur l'ordi pour les tester dans un usage courant, je n'ai pas encore testé les sites commerciaux, administratifs ou bancaires.</p>
OpenSauce :emacs:<p>Was having issues with Cloudflare checks on IceCat, and then discovered that I can bypass that issue by changing my user agent string to make my browser look like it's running on an Android device. This didn't work for any desktop OS, *just* Android.</p><p>The internet is a beautiful mess.</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>icecat</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browser</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/browsers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browsers</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>internet</span></a></p>
Bob Jonkman<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/@neil" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>neil</span></a></span> </p><p>Thanx for that article on browsers!</p><p><a href="https://neilzone.co.uk/2025/03/what-if-anything-should-i-do-about-using-mozillas-firefox/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">neilzone.co.uk/2025/03/what-if</span><span class="invisible">-anything-should-i-do-about-using-mozillas-firefox/</span></a></p><p>I had been using IceCat until there were no more updates, apparently the result of Firefox changing some fundamental APIs either in the rendering engine or the plug-in system. I didn't realize that IceCat was still being maintained in source code. Now Imma have to do some downloading and compiling...</p><p><a href="https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a></p>
Rui Nibau (rnb)<p>[blog] Quitter Firefox</p><p>Voilà un article que je n'aurai jamais cru écrire : comment quitter Firefox. La page dédiée au logiciel est l'une des plus ancienne du site (voir la plus ancienne). Difficile de changer 22 ans d'habitudes en quelques jours. Voici quelques pistes...</p><p><a href="https://omacronides.com/articles/firefox-quit" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">omacronides.com/articles/firef</span><span class="invisible">ox-quit</span></a></p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Librewolf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Librewolf</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Icecat</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/GnomeWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GnomeWeb</span></a></p>
OpenSauce :emacs:<p>Given all the Firefox drama in the last few days, I think it's time for me to switch to a (g)new browser :ablobcatwink: </p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browser</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FireFox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FireFox</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/GNU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GNU</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>icecat</span></a></p>
Sibfactory<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@solblack" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>solblack</span></a></span> </p><p>on parle aussi de <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>icecat</span></a> <br><a href="https://icecatbrowser.org/index.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">icecatbrowser.org/index.html</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>firefox</span></a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/gnu_icecat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gnu_icecat</span></a></p>
DoomBananas 🇳🇴<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@http_error_418" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>http_error_418</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sunny.garden/@swift" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>swift</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@sarahjamielewis" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>sarahjamielewis</span></a></span> Remembering Iceweasel from back in the days I took a look at other FF derivatives and <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/IceCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IceCat</span></a> at first glimpse seems to be alternative... Had it not been for the fact that it seems dormant. Does anyone know of another "Free as in freedom" alternative? It's scary if all the browsers are not-free at the moment.</p><p>(Feel free to boost for reach)</p>