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Nikola KoturIs there <a href="https://kotur.eu/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#jabber</a> <a href="https://kotur.eu/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> Android client that lets you specify server and port manually? All I tried assume domain from the ID. I am experimenting with ephemeral fully local servers that claim no domain. I know I might be breaking some standards here..

Debacle<a href="https://types.pl/@toastal" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@toastal</a>This does not help with any server-side problems such as broken rooms, but at least I don't have to deal with three clients:I use both IRC and Matrix from my <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> client (mainly <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gajim</a>) using <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> bridges. <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Biboumi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Biboumi</a> for IRC, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/slidge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#slidge</a> for Matrix.

Debacle<a href="https://venera.social/profile/prav" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@prav</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@badrihippo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@badrihippo</a> I'm desperately missing the <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Profanity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Profanity</a> icon by <a href="https://devlug.de/social/profanity" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@profanity</a>!<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>

Debacle<a href="https://polymaths.social/@krafter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@krafter</a> I'll stay with <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/SMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SMS</a>, using my <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>/<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> gateway, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/sms4you" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sms4you</a> 🙂(I run my phone without <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SIM</a> and <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Mobian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mobian</a> does not support <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/RCS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RCS</a> anyway, TTBOMK.)

Debacle<a href="https://kanoa.de/@lazou" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@lazou</a> "Der Knackpunkt: Wo stehen die Server – und wem gehören sie?"Richtig. Solange ich mir nicht selbst aussuchen kann wem die Servers gehören, z.B. dem lokalen Internet-Verein, welchem ich als Mitglied vertraue, ist <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/digitaleSouver%C3%A4nit%C3%A4t" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#digitaleSouveränität</a> nicht gegeben.Mein Internet-Verein mit Servers in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Berlin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Berlin</a>, DE, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EU</a> bietet seit 2009 <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>/<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> an. Es gibt aber auch viele andere Providers. Siehe<a href="https://joinjabber.org/docs/servers/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://joinjabber.org/docs/servers/</a> von <a href="https://indieweb.social/@joinjabber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@joinjabber</a>und <a href="https://providers.xmpp.net/#providers" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://providers.xmpp.net/#providers</a> von <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp_providers" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@xmpp_providers</a>

Debacle<a href="https://mastodon.social/@PuercoPop" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@PuercoPop</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@ralphm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ralphm</a>Btw. a relatively new <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> client that tries to cover the Slack/Discord use case is <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Prose" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prose</a> by <a href="https://toot.io/@prose" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@prose</a>. They just a made a release 0.8.2 yesterday (Congrats!), which I'm curious to try out. <a href="https://prose.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://prose.org/</a>

Debacle<a href="https://blahaj.social/@leah" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@leah</a> Every chat system after <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Zephyr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zephyr</a> was a mistake.<a href="https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9</a>Seriously, IRC is not my cup of tea. I want to receive messages when offline, multiline messages, multi-device support, message correction, message reactions, message retraction, message replies… I'll stay with <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>, which is brandnew compared to Zephyr or IRC 🙂

Debacle<a href="https://blahaj.social/@leah" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@leah</a>No, we will stick to …⦻ <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>Which predates the other options by ≈ 13..16 years.(At <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Debian</a> it's IRC4ever, though, but I use it through an <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> gateway. I also use Matrix with a bridge.)

Debacle<a href="https://c.im/@sbb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sbb</a> <a href="https://nerdculture.de/@ulfi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ulfi</a>I wish people had even higher expectations for <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/instantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#instantMessaging</a> apps: <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Privacy</a>, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/noAds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#noAds</a>, freedom from corporate interests, respect for <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/humanRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#humanRights</a>, low energy consumption, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/digitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#digitalSovereignty</a>. And not AI powered, flashy <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/stickers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#stickers</a>.Free and federated applications and services, made and run by e.g. small cooperatives or volunteers, cannot compete with billion dollar companies on resources. We have other strengths, though!(Btw. I love stickers!)<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/freeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#freeSoftware</a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/federation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#federation</a>

Linux G. Fossman<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@dino" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dino</a> Nice. Calls working for me again on <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/postmarketOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#postmarketOS</a> with <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Librem5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Librem5</a>. Call icon no longer greyed out.<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>

Debacle<a href="https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Linux</a>Nice, that you have a federated messenger in the list!Please add <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> a.k.a. <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>, too, which happens to be my preferred IM since ≈ 2014 (even it is much older, it exists since 1999!)<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@xmpp</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/@joinjabber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@joinjabber</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp_providers" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@xmpp_providers</a>

Debacle<a href="https://freeradical.zone/@generalx" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@generalx</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@jwz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jwz</a>There is still no first class client for Linux, such as <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Debian</a> on desktop or <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Mobian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mobian</a> on mobile. Only for Google Android and Apple iOS which I do not fancy 🤷As I already use <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> since ≈2014, before Signal has been released, there is no reason for me to change.

Debacle<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@gajim</a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gajim</a> 2.1.0-1 will land in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Debian</a> 13 <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/trixie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#trixie</a> within the next hours. You can already install it from Debian unstable.<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>

Debacle<a href="https://mastodon.social/@rubdos" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@rubdos</a> <a href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/channel/ts-new" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ts-new</a>I agree, that there is no server-side meta data protection on <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>. But it compensates by1. impede mass data surveillance, thanks to federation, and2. making multiple accounts, incl. anonymous and burner accounts, very easy.Note, that most <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> clients do default to <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a> E2EE "on" now. It took a long time, though.

Daniel GultschA recent security audit of <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/Conversations_im" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Conversations_im</a>¹ found that wildcard certificate handling didn’t fully comply with the spec.Conversations was accepting *.a.example for c.b.a.example, even though wildcards are only meant to match a single label.This issue has been fixed in version 2.18.0, now live on Google Play.¹: <a href="https://conversations.im/2025_audit_conversations.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://conversations.im/2025_audit_conversations.pdf</a><a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>

XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation<a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> CommunityXMPP <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Sprint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Sprint</a> in <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Berlin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Berlin</a> on 23rd - 25th May 2025! It is open to all interested.More details: <a href="https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2025-05_Berlin" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2025-05_Berlin</a>:xmpp: <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#jabber</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chat</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interoperability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#interoperability</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rtc</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#decentralization</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/standard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#standard</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://masto.ai/@lastquake" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@lastquake</a> do you also have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bot</a> as well?

XSF: XMPP Standards FoundationThe <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> Newsletter for March 2025 is out!Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/standards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#standards</a>! <a href="https://xmpp.org/2025/04/the-xmpp-newsletter-march-2025/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://xmpp.org/2025/04/the-xmpp-newsletter-march-2025/</a>Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕ :xmpp: <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#jabber</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chat</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interoperability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#interoperability</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rtc</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#decentralization</a>

XSF: XMPP Standards FoundationThe <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> Newsletter for February 2025 is out!Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/standards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#standards</a>!<a href="https://xmpp.org/2025/03/the-xmpp-newsletter-february-2025/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://xmpp.org/2025/03/the-xmpp-newsletter-february-2025/</a>Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕ :xmpp: <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#jabber</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chat</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interoperability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#interoperability</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rtc</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#decentralization</a>

Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kaidan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kaidan</a> 0.12.2 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KaidanIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KaidanIM</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QXmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QXmpp</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Qt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Qt</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KDE</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#E2EE</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a>) <a href="https://kaidan.im/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://kaidan.im/</a>

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