Levka<p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>history</span></a>.</p><p>"Moxie Marlinspike, the co-founder and chief executive of encrypted-messaging app Signal, has resigned.</p><p>He blogged it was a 'good time to replace myself as CEO' after working on Signal for over a decade.</p><p>Signal recently enabled crypto-currency payments within the app, which has concerned some users.</p><p>Mr Marlinspike remains a board member of the Signal Foundation, while the board's executive chair, Brian Acton, becomes interim chief executive."</p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59937614" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">bbc.com/news/technology-599376</span><span class="invisible">14</span></a></p>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gruene.social/@max" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>max</span></a></span> <br>To <a href="https://gruene.social/@max/113872018769294131" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">quote you directly</a>:</p><blockquote><p>"[...] easy to use solutions that are at the same time private and secure. [...]"</p></blockquote><ul><li>The fact that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> requires <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> which more often than not <em>cannot be legally acquired anonymously</em> makes it not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/private" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>private</span></a>. </li></ul><p>It is easier, faster, cheaper and overall simpler to get someone setup with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> espechally if they don't have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ID</span></a> to acquire a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a>. </p><p>And if you go and say, <em>"Just buy a [insert country here] [e]SIM!"</em> and expect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> without a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CreditCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CreditCard</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PayPal</span></a> or other means of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnlinePayment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnlinePayment</span></a> to fiddle around with some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> if not having to get some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMcard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMcard</span></a> because they can only afford to maintain one SIM and can't spend triple-digits on a new devices then you <em>completely missed the point</em>!</p><ul><li>I can much faster and easier get TechIlliterates setup show them around - either in a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.earth/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@mastodon.earth</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@chaos.social</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoParty</span></a> - style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/classroom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>classroom</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/seminar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>seminar</span></a> or 1:1 tutoring than I can <em>legally acquire and activate a new SIM in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a></em> [since 07/2017]...</li></ul><p>It's not that I expect anyone to get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiterate</span></a> within minutes, but similar to setting up a cordless DECT phone it's something one has to do once in 5 years and just have them put the password in a safe spot to retain...</p> <p>Point is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WontFix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WontFix</span></a> their setup and that was evidently clear even before <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> succeeded <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a>: Their entire operation has a <em>distinct <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a> stench</em> as it's an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/unsustainable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>unsustainable</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurning</span></a> party!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NOBUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NOBUS</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOBUS#Criticism" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hegemony</a> ain't something that just got executed now (neither was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>!)... </li></ul><p>A counterexample on how this could've been done are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> and other <em>truly <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a></em> as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a> standards. </p><ul><li><p><em>NOTHING</em> compells Signal to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">demand PII</a>, run a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)#In-app_payments" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">aka.</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> that even seasoned <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiterates</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoBros" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoBros</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">can't setup properly</a>, and in fact Signal using <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)#Controversial_use" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">phone numbers makes it trivial to discriminate against users and easier for them to identify them</a>!</p></li><li><p>If <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113869305765533809" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">my reasoning</a> didn't resonate with you, then try helping i.e. undocumented migrants aka. <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SansPapier" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SansPapier</span></a>|s"</em> to get setup with it without violating laws and/or ToS and/or needing an imported SIM which I'm shure most folks don't have on hand!</p></li></ul><p>Whereas it's trivial to get people setup on <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/xmpp.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one of many XMPP servers I've personally tested</a>!</p><ul><li>Not to mention clients like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> are way more user-friendly and unlike Signal can also work perfectly fine over <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, including <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionServices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionServices</span></a> as endpoints. </li></ul><p>AFAIK Signal doesn't even have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> / <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.onion" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><code>.onion</code></a> for their Website, much less any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/API" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>API</span></a> enpoints to use it with!</p><ul><li>Them relying on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> is just something that makes them even <em>more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sus</span></a></em> as there is <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#Controversies" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">no legitimate reason</a></em> to use a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> like that.</li></ul> <p>You're free to also provide evidence and supporting data to your arguments, rather then <em>neighsaying</em> against <em>proven to be more secure and reliable [by virtue of decentralization]</em> options like XMPP+OMEMO and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME. </p><ul><li>What gets my blood boiling is the constant <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/disinfo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>disinfo</span></a> by <a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/113868777937162686" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Signal</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/113869169340313254" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fanboys</a> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> who sell it like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DigitalSnakeoil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalSnakeoil</span></a> akin to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AntivirusSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AntivirusSoftware</span></a>, because it's at best <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechPopulism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechPopulism</span></a>"</em> and at worst <a href="https://infosec.space/@agturcz@circumstances.run/113868748895262202" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will mislead "TechIlliterates"</a> with a <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113868987217053362" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">false sense of security</a>, which in turn puts more users at risk.</li></ul><p>The <em>proper fix</em> is to actually <em>assess the situation</em> and acknowledge the <em>risks and limitations</em> as well as the very nature of communications, which means <em>upgrading later</em> is exponentially more painful, thus getting people <em>properly setup once</em> is way easier.</p><ul><li>Just because <em>WE</em> [ or rather <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> in this case ] rather <em>privilegued enough</em> to not be <em>hatecrimed in their current location</em> doesn't mean this is the case for everyone. And having places like Signal rely on a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CDN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CDN</span></a>"</em> is just another <em>red flag</em> to me because questions like <a href="https://circumstances.run/@agturcz/113866980398547492" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this one</a> just don't arise with <a href="http://monocles.chat" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monocles.chat</a> as people can just exercise proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> and just use Tor!</li></ul><p>Speaking of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a>: That business is at least <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sustainable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sustainable</span></a> because it's funded by users <a href="https://store.monocles.eu/produkt/monocles-starter-account/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(€2 p.m.)</a> which they can <a href="https://monocles.eu/more/#payment-section" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pay anonymously</a></p>
Benjamin Carr, Ph.D. 👨🏻💻🧬<p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Developer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Developer</span></a> Explains Why Early Encrypted Messaging Tools Flopped<br><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a> criticized early <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>encryption</span></a> software's user-unfriendly design at <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/BlackHat2024" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlackHat2024</span></a>, admitting he and others initially failed to consider non-technical users' needs. Speaking with <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/BlackHat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlackHat</span></a> founder <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/JeffMoss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JeffMoss</span></a>, He said tools like <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/PrettyGoodPrivacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PrettyGoodPrivacy</span></a> (<a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>) wrongly assumed users would adopt complex practices like keyservers and signing keys over dinner. "We were just wrong," Marlinspike said<br><a href="https://www.pcmag.com/news/signal-developer-explains-why-early-encrypted-messaging-tools-flopped" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">pcmag.com/news/signal-develope</span><span class="invisible">r-explains-why-early-encrypted-messaging-tools-flopped</span></a></p>
Benjamin Carr, Ph.D. 👨🏻💻🧬<p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Software" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Software</span></a> innovation just isn't what it used to be, and <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a> blames <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Agile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Agile</span></a><br>"We spent the past 20 years onboarding people into software by putting them into black box abstraction layers, and then putting them into organizations composed of black box abstraction layers," Marlinspike said. He contended this approach has left many <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/softwareengineers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>softwareengineers</span></a> unable to do more than derivative work, lacking the deep understanding necessary for groundbreaking developments. <br><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/09/marlinspike/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theregister.com/2024/08/09/mar</span><span class="invisible">linspike/</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Seriously, if <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> was maintained by more competent people, they may have integrated some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PaperWallet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PaperWallet</span></a> <a href="https://github.com/kkarhan/paperwallet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like the one I archived</a> and actually designed their project to be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> ...</p><ul><li>But that would've required them to actually care, which even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a> didn't in his days...</li></ul><p>Maybe <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> will yeet that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> [aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>] out of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> app and point people to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a>... </p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NotFinancialAdvice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NotFinancialAdvice</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NotLegalAdvice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NotLegalAdvice</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@valk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>valk</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mk.absturztau.be/@flora" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>flora</span></a></span> not only dumb but completely <em>self-sabotaging</em> any claims re: "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/metadata" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>metadata</span></a> protection"...</p><p>OFC even before <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a> left and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> took the helm, I did ask <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> <em>why</em> they did this and criticized them for it, as this is an absolute <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NoGo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NoGo</span></a> given the fact that in more juristictions than ever, one cannot legally obtain an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/anonymous" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anonymous</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> or only one without a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a>!</p><ul><li>Also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> does restrict it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a> functionality based iff siad phone number to comply with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacist</span></a> demands by the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USgov" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USgov</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Not to mention them deliberately being located in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> post-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PRISM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PRISM</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> makes them look like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HoneyPot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HoneyPot</span></a> akin to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperationIronside" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OperationIronside</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperationTr%C3%B8janShield" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OperationTrøjanShield</span></a>...</p>
gtbarry<p>How Signal Walks the Line Between Anarchism and Pragmatism</p><p>Signal is committed to retaining as little metadata as possible, that makes it hard for it to implement features that are standard to other apps. Implementing features like group chats, address books, and stickers all required doing novel research in cryptography. That Signal built them anyway is a testament to its desire for mass appeal</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>signal</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/messaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>messaging</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/surveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>surveillance</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/cryptography" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cryptography</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/signal-politics-software-criticism/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">wired.com/story/signal-politic</span><span class="invisible">s-software-criticism/</span></a></p>
Becky Pinkard<p>That time when you’re home sick and consoling yourself by watching YouTube sailing videos and accidentally end up watching a documentary by none other than Moxie Marlinspike himself and don’t realise it until the credits roll… <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/sailing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sailing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>signal</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a> </p><p>Really enjoyed this and forgot how miserable I feel for a bit, I was sad when it ended! Thanks Moxie!</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/2lwbHYOFD-4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">youtu.be/2lwbHYOFD-4</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
ReK2<a href="https://pxlmo.com/discover/tags/MoxieMarlinspike?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MoxieMarlinspike</a> <a href="https://pxlmo.com/discover/tags/noVoting?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#noVoting</a> <a href="https://pxlmo.com/discover/tags/signal?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#signal</a> <a href="https://pxlmo.com/discover/tags/anarchistHacker?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#anarchistHacker</a>
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