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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.ie/@DoctorBrodsky" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>DoctorBrodsky</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toot.wales/@woe2you" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>woe2you</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@miah" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>miah</span></a></span> given <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Quad9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Quad9</span></a> bowed before the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Contentmafia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Contentmafia</span></a> and censored <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DNS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DNS</span></a> requests, I'll continue to recommend using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenNIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenNIC</span></a>'s Servers <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/a4a7ccf70d8504ebbffd7e5fbcd5630294860434/dns.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instead</a></p><p><code>94.103.153.176 &amp; 2a02:990:219:1:ba:1337:cafe:3</code> as well as<br><code>144.76.103.143 &amp; 2a01:4f8:192:43a5::2</code> </p><ul><li>If you <a href="https://mastodon.ie/@DoctorBrodsky/114251891439728473" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">only add a single</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPv4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IPv4</span></a> address, no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPv6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IPv6</span></a> resolution will take place over said provider or worse even no IPv6 connectivity at all...</li></ul><p>I merely <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/a4a7ccf70d8504ebbffd7e5fbcd5630294860434/dns.servers.list.tsv#L25" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">retain quad9</a> on said list for archival purposes. I Yeeted <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> since they are a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@sirber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>sirber</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@miah" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>miah</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@Blort" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Blort</span></a></span> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a>!</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114201410030390264" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1142014</span><span class="invisible">10030390264</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@freeagent" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>freeagent</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toot.community/@VTDARKSIM" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>VTDARKSIM</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@miah" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>miah</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Quad9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Quad9</span></a> self-censored their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DNS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DNS</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a>!</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114201410030390264" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1142014</span><span class="invisible">10030390264</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@cR0w" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cR0w</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@troyhunt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>troyhunt</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@dangoodin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dangoodin</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://benjojo.co.uk/u/benjojo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>benjojo</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Viss" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Viss</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@matthew_d_green" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>matthew_d_green</span></a></span> </p><p>Seriously, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> are at best a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ValueRemoving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ValueRemoving</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MITM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MITM</span></a> and more often than not a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> who's business model is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RacketeeringScheme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RacketeeringScheme</span></a> that should not exist to begin with.</p><ul><li>There is no legitimate reason to use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cloudflare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cloudflare</span></a>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@kajer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kajer</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> and their <em>"business"</em> is at best <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ValueRemoving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ValueRemoving</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/rentseeking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rentseeking</span></a> but mire iften than not just a digital <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RacketeeringScheme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RacketeeringScheme</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@0xF21D" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>0xF21D</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> and their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MITM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MITM</span></a>-based approach eould've always allowed that.</p><ul><li>Why is <em>ANYONE</em> here surprised of that?</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114184984516877186" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seriously!</a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Viss" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Viss</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a> <em>is</em> a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> known to offer Services in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russia</span></a> and to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CyberCriminals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CyberCriminals</span></a>...</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> is also a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ValueRemoving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ValueRemoving</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/rentseeker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rentseeker</span></a> who's core product / service is essentially a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Racketeering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Racketeering</span></a> Scheme and <em>should not exist</em> as any competent hoster offers <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DDoS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DDoS</span></a> protection free of charge...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@cr" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cr</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> on it's own is a shure way to identify <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CyberCriminals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CyberCriminals</span></a> and criminally incompetent people.</p><ul><li>No legitimate business uses that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a>!</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://federate.social/@pgiulan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pgiulan</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> and needs to be disconnected &amp; shutdown for good!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@AAKL" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>AAKL</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://geeknews.chat/@theregister" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>theregister</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://theblower.au/@ssharwood" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ssharwood</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a> are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ValueRemovibg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ValueRemovibg</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rentseekers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rentseekers</span></a> at best and a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> at most!</p><ul><li>I listerally blicj their entire <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ASN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ASN</span></a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a> reasons alone!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.elizabeth.cat/@me" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>me</span></a></span> because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CludFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CludFlare</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@fluepke" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fluepke</span></a></span> I literally cancel companies for using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> to this day!</p><ul><li>Cuz <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a> <em>is</em> a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a>…</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@dee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dee</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://circumstances.run/@agturcz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>agturcz</span></a></span> Still, using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a>, which is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> is a serious risk and it's up to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> to actually <em>not</em> do that!</p><ul><li>This whole issue <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113872410016175384" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doesn't apply</a> to <em>any</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> client <em>or</em> service I know of...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gruene.social/@max" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>max</span></a></span> <br>To <a href="https://gruene.social/@max/113872018769294131" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">quote you directly</a>:</p><blockquote><p>"[...] easy to use solutions that are at the same time private and secure. [...]"</p></blockquote><ul><li>The fact that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> requires <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> which more often than not <em>cannot be legally acquired anonymously</em> makes it not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/private" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>private</span></a>. </li></ul><p>It is easier, faster, cheaper and overall simpler to get someone setup with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> espechally if they don't have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ID</span></a> to acquire a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a>. </p><p>And if you go and say, <em>"Just buy a [insert country here] [e]SIM!"</em> and expect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> without a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CreditCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CreditCard</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PayPal</span></a> or other means of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnlinePayment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnlinePayment</span></a> to fiddle around with some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> if not having to get some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMcard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMcard</span></a> because they can only afford to maintain one SIM and can't spend triple-digits on a new devices then you <em>completely missed the point</em>!</p><ul><li>I can much faster and easier get TechIlliterates setup show them around - either in a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.earth/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@mastodon.earth</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@chaos.social</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoParty</span></a> - style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/classroom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>classroom</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/seminar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>seminar</span></a> or 1:1 tutoring than I can <em>legally acquire and activate a new SIM in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a></em> [since 07/2017]...</li></ul><p>It's not that I expect anyone to get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiterate</span></a> within minutes, but similar to setting up a cordless DECT phone it's something one has to do once in 5 years and just have them put the password in a safe spot to retain...</p> <p>Point is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WontFix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WontFix</span></a> their setup and that was evidently clear even before <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> succeeded <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a>: Their entire operation has a <em>distinct <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a> stench</em> as it's an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/unsustainable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>unsustainable</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurning</span></a> party!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NOBUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NOBUS</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOBUS#Criticism" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hegemony</a> ain't something that just got executed now (neither was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>!)... </li></ul><p>A counterexample on how this could've been done are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> and other <em>truly <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a></em> as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a> standards. </p><ul><li><p><em>NOTHING</em> compells Signal to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">demand PII</a>, run a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)#In-app_payments" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">aka.</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> that even seasoned <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiterates</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoBros" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoBros</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">can't setup properly</a>, and in fact Signal using <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)#Controversial_use" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">phone numbers makes it trivial to discriminate against users and easier for them to identify them</a>!</p></li><li><p>If <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113869305765533809" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">my reasoning</a> didn't resonate with you, then try helping i.e. undocumented migrants aka. <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SansPapier" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SansPapier</span></a>|s"</em> to get setup with it without violating laws and/or ToS and/or needing an imported SIM which I'm shure most folks don't have on hand!</p></li></ul><p>Whereas it's trivial to get people setup on <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/xmpp.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">one of many XMPP servers I've personally tested</a>!</p><ul><li>Not to mention clients like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> are way more user-friendly and unlike Signal can also work perfectly fine over <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, including <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionServices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionServices</span></a> as endpoints. </li></ul><p>AFAIK Signal doesn't even have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> / <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.onion" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><code>.onion</code></a> for their Website, much less any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/API" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>API</span></a> enpoints to use it with!</p><ul><li>Them relying on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> is just something that makes them even <em>more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sus</span></a></em> as there is <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#Controversies" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">no legitimate reason</a></em> to use a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> like that.</li></ul> <p>You're free to also provide evidence and supporting data to your arguments, rather then <em>neighsaying</em> against <em>proven to be more secure and reliable [by virtue of decentralization]</em> options like XMPP+OMEMO and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME. </p><ul><li>What gets my blood boiling is the constant <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/disinfo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>disinfo</span></a> by <a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/113868777937162686" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Signal</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/113869169340313254" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fanboys</a> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> who sell it like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DigitalSnakeoil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalSnakeoil</span></a> akin to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AntivirusSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AntivirusSoftware</span></a>, because it's at best <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechPopulism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechPopulism</span></a>"</em> and at worst <a href="https://infosec.space/@agturcz@circumstances.run/113868748895262202" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">will mislead "TechIlliterates"</a> with a <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113868987217053362" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">false sense of security</a>, which in turn puts more users at risk.</li></ul><p>The <em>proper fix</em> is to actually <em>assess the situation</em> and acknowledge the <em>risks and limitations</em> as well as the very nature of communications, which means <em>upgrading later</em> is exponentially more painful, thus getting people <em>properly setup once</em> is way easier.</p><ul><li>Just because <em>WE</em> [ or rather <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> in this case ] rather <em>privilegued enough</em> to not be <em>hatecrimed in their current location</em> doesn't mean this is the case for everyone. And having places like Signal rely on a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CDN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CDN</span></a>"</em> is just another <em>red flag</em> to me because questions like <a href="https://circumstances.run/@agturcz/113866980398547492" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this one</a> just don't arise with <a href="http://monocles.chat" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">monocles.chat</a> as people can just exercise proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> and just use Tor!</li></ul><p>Speaking of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a>: That business is at least <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sustainable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sustainable</span></a> because it's funded by users <a href="https://store.monocles.eu/produkt/monocles-starter-account/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(€2 p.m.)</a> which they can <a href="https://monocles.eu/more/#payment-section" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pay anonymously</a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Sable_Shade" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Sable_Shade</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@RustyBertrand" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>RustyBertrand</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@RecurringBloatware" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>RecurringBloatware</span></a></span> Personally I do have a <em>"balanced approach"</em>:</p><ol><li><p>Noone wants their instances' users get harrassed by the likes of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KiwiFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KiwiFarms</span></a> unless they themselves are in favour of those.</p></li><li><p>Same goes for all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Neonazi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Neonazi</span></a> instances. Those are usually hosted at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a>|s that refuse to process <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AbuseReports" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseReports</span></a>.</p></li><li><p>Given the shakyness and lacK of precedents confirming the extension of <em>'provider privilegues'</em> (akin to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OCILLA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OCILLA</span></a>) to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> servers, blocking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/pedo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pedo</span></a> instances is necessary in many juristictions as to not <code>cache</code> their contents and thus <em>'knowingly and willingly'</em> aid in the spread if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CSAM</span></a>.</p></li></ol>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@khobochka" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>khobochka</span></a></span> guess why I <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/scrapers.ipv4.block.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maintain</a> a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scraper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scraper</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/blocklist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>blocklist</span></a>?</p><ul><li>In fact I know <em>multiple</em> people and organizations that decide to basically redirect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ValueRemoving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ValueRemoving</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scrapers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scrapers</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPTbot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPTbot</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ByteSpider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ByteSpider</span></a> (which <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi5sd3WEh0c" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">literally</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DDoS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DDoS</span></a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MattKC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MattKC</span></a> because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> are a <em>criminally incompetent</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a>!) to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hetzner</span></a>'s <a href="http://hil-speed.hetzner.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10GB Speedtest file</a> which can be found at <code>http://hil-speed.hetzner.com/10GB.bin</code> as an extra middlefinger!</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cloudflare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cloudflare</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hetznered" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hetznered</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ByteDance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ByteDance</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ChatGPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ChatGPT</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@urldna" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>urldna</span></a></span> why am I not surprised <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cybercriminals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cybercriminals</span></a> doing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Phishing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Phishing</span></a> use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a>? </p><ul><li>Cuz <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://defcon.social/@gtronix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gtronix</span></a></span> I'd <em>never ever</em> trust a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> with somethibg as sensitive as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a> tunnel.</p><ul><li>That's just inherebty and inexcuseably bad!</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.jsteuernagel.de/@jana" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jana</span></a></span> I find <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> to be garbage and have been happy with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClouDNS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClouDNS</span></a> for ages, which also has a nice <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/API" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>API</span></a>...</p><p><a href="https://www.cloudns.net/wiki/article/42/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">cloudns.net/wiki/article/42/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudFlare</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> without a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Spine</span></a> and a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ValueRemoving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ValueRemoving</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RentSeeker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RentSeeker</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@BleepingComputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>BleepingComputer</span></a></span> calling a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Clownflare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Clownflare</span></a> a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InternetSecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InternetSecurity</span></a>" Giant</em> is just flatout wrong!</p>