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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> <a href="https://mk.absturztau.be/@puniko" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@puniko</a> ich kenne das :hetznered: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Emoji" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Emoji</a>! <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HETZNERed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HETZNERed</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.uno/@miniBill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@miniBill</a> <a href="https://social.skyshaper.org/users/derf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@derf</a> Short Version: Look up <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hetznered" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hetznered</a>... And also since they have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/datacenters" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#datacenters</a> in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USA</a>, they fall under <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CloudAct</a> so they are a "can't use & won't use" for me anyway.Long version: A hoster has to give 0 fucks about what people do unless it's flat-out illegal and/or harms their systems directly. Granted, that's my personal opinion and does not reflect present and/or past employers and/or clients!

🎸 POSS 🏁<a href="https://xn--c8h.fm/tags/hetznered" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hetznered</a> is when girls kissing gets your services taken down, but hosting fascists is completely fine....

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@gnulinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@gnulinux</a> hoffentlich nicht mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetzner</a>...Siehe <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hetznered" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hetznered</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@khobochka" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@khobochka</a> guess why I <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/scrapers.ipv4.block.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maintain</a> a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scraper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Scraper</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/blocklist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#blocklist</a>?<ul><li>In fact I know multiple people and organizations that decide to basically redirect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ValueRemoving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ValueRemoving</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scrapers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Scrapers</a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPTbot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GPTbot</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ByteSpider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ByteSpider</a> (which <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi5sd3WEh0c" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">literally</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DDoS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DDoS</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MattKC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MattKC</a> because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClownFlare</a> are a criminally incompetent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RogueISP</a>!) to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetzner</a>'s <a href="http://hil-speed.hetzner.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10GB Speedtest file</a> which can be found at <code>http://hil-speed.hetzner.com/10GB.bin</code> as an extra middlefinger!</li></ul><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cloudflare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cloudflare</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hetznered" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hetznered</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ByteDance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ByteDance</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ChatGPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatGPT</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://oldfriends.live/@paul" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@paul</a> <a href="https://shumai.xyz/@mookie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mookie</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@kiwix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kiwix</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetzner</a> is a shit company and I can say so because I worked for multiple companies who used them.<ul><li>*"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GetHetznere" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GetHetznere</a>!"*d is a real thing.</li></ul><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetznered" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetznered</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.jsteuernagel.de/@jana" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jana</a> You missed the whole <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetznered" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetznered</a> case?<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetzner</a> nuked a clients becaude they aren't checking complaints at all!<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzner#no.spam.ee_lawsuit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzner#no.spam.ee_lawsuit</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://chaos.social/@qsx" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@qsx</a> Vorallem weil dier <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/inhouse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#inhouse</a> ist und die keinen eyternen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Traffic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Traffic</a> damit haben...Aber okay, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetzner</a> war schon shice bevor Leute <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hetznered" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hetznered</a> wurden - leider fällt das aber unter NDA...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://westergaard.social/users/kasperd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kasperd</a> TBH, the problem is not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CloudFlare</a> hosting but the way they basically refuse to act upon legitimate complaints and how they enable beyond-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StochasticTerrorism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#StochasticTerrorism</a> by the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hategrooming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hategrooming</a> forum that is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KiwiFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KiwiFarms</a>!<ul><li>Mind you that KiwiFarms was fired by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gandi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gandi</a>.net for hosting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSAM</a> and is one of the few sites that got <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/delisted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#delisted</a> by <a href="https://mastodon.archive.org/@internetarchive" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@internetarchive</a> for being a meritless shithole that is in fact indefensible.</li></ul>I mean, you do you but I'd not trust <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClownFlare</a> nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetzner</a> and would rather stick with a provider (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClouDNS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClouDNS</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/netcup" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#netcup</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/contabo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#contabo</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/myLoc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#myLoc</a>) that basically says 'Everything legal as per our juristiction is fine.' than put myself on the whim of a "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreezePeach" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FreezePeach</a>" hoster that'll fire me once bigger customers threaten to quit hosting with them (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DropKiwifarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DropKiwifarms</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DropCloudflare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DropCloudflare</a>) or just yeet me <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzner#Incidents" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">because some employee dislikes my site</a> (aka getting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetznered" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetznered</a>)...<ul><li>I expect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consistency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#consistency</a> and that starts with the ToS and ends with handling legitimate and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzner#Russian_complaints_about_Glavcom.ua" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">illegitimate</a> complaints!</li></ul><a href="https://westergaard.social/objects/e1c2cbed-966f-48e7-af3b-c39f3f238dab" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://westergaard.social/objects/e1c2cbed-966f-48e7-af3b-c39f3f238dab</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://transfem.social/@Amelia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Amelia</a> I guess I should add <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hetzner</a> on the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DROP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DROP</a> blocklist and see them yeet <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSAfD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NSAfD</a> faster than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClownFlare</a> did when <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DropKiwifarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DropKiwifarms</a> hit them.I fried bigger fish than Hetzner...<a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/drop.ipv4.block.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IPv4</a><a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/drop.ipv6.block.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IPv6</a> <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/drop.domains.block.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Domains</a> <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/drop.asn.block.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ASNs</a><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cloudflare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cloudflare</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AfD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AfD</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HETZNERed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HETZNERed</a>

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