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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> Ich widerspreche da vehement, da es naiv ist alles in de Verantwortung eines einzelnen Anbieters zu geben.</p><ul><li>Als Gegenbeispiel kann <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moniclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>moniclesChat</span></a> aps Client gelten welcher mit sinnvollen Voreinstellungen kommt und ausm Stand <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> - mittels <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.librem.one/@guardianproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>guardianproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Orbot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Orbot</span></a> kann.</li></ul><p>Nicht kann das Vermitteln von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> ersetzen, und alle die naiv daran glauben, dass <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> deren Arsch retten wird, dürften genauso door reinglotzen wie die Opfer von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MINERVA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MINERVA</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RUBIKON" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RUBIKON</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoLeaks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoLeaks</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> sind mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a>|s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Macht%C3%BCbernahme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Machtübernahme</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Glechschaltung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Glechschaltung</span></a> weder eine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Demokratie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Demokratie</span></a> noch ein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rechtsstaat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rechtsstaat</span></a> und ist daher wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Russland</span></a> oder die <em>"V.R."</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a> als unsicherer Standort zu betrachten, gerade weil <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfaschismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfaschismus</span></a> alla <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> offen existiert!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> naja, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> fällt auch unter <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> ubd <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a> ist noch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4rer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietärer</span></a> als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Gibt mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> eine wirklich <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sichere" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sichere</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dezentrale" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dezentrale</span></a> Alternative die keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummern</span></a> oder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Google</span></a>-Dienste braucht!</li></ul><p>Ach ja, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moniclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>moniclesChat</span></a> haben <a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles/113925173206088469" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">grade</a> ne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Promo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Promo</span></a> zum <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GlobalSwitchDay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GlobalSwitchDay</span></a> und bieten deren <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a> kostenlos an.</p><ul><li>Und sonst gibt's auch noch <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> welche <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGO</span></a>/MIME &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> als Basis nutzen!</li></ul><p>Für <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/xmpp.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">beide gibt's</a> <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/email.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">kostenlose Anbieter</a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> ist genauso machbar wie deren <em>echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@MastoDenunzianten" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>MastoDenunzianten</span></a></span> <em>EXAKT DAS</em> ist die <em>FALSCHE VORSTELLUNG!</em></p><ul><li><p>Ein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiertes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiertes</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - System wird <em>IMMER</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backdoors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Backdoors</span></a> haben weil es dazu verpfklchtet werden kann.</p></li><li><p>Ohne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>-<em>"Compliance"</em> wäre <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> seit langem abgeschaltet (wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncoChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EncoChat</span></a>) und <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> im Knast!</p></li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME sind dagegen offene <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Standards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Standards</span></a> die anders als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a> &amp; Co. komplett auditierbar sind und <em>KEINE</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (Personen-Identifizierbaren Informationen) verlangen.</p><ul><li><p>Vertraust nicht <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://monocles.chat" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">monocles chat</a> als Betrieiber? Kein Problem: Gibt <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/xmpp.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">drölfzig andere</a> und kannst <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> machen!</p></li><li><p>Vertraust nicht <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moniclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>moniclesChat</span></a> oder <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> als Clients? Auch hier gibt's <a href="https://alternativeto.net/feature/xmpp/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">diverse Alternativen</a> und wenn der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Aluhut" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Aluhut</span></a> zu eng ist, bauste halt alles selbst.</p></li></ul><p>Wohingegen der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BND" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BND</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CIA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CIA</span></a> berühmt sind für die Faktischer Eigentümerschaft und Unterwanderung einzelner Hersteller die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|e <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>-Lösubgen verkaufen. </p><ul><li>Konkrete Beispiele: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MINERVA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MINERVA</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rubikon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rubikon</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TextLite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TextLite</span></a> welche via <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Phllips" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Phllips</span></a> plattgemacht wurden…</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@HonkHase" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>HonkHase</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@hisolutions" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>hisolutions</span></a></span> Ich würde auch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a> nicht als Alternativen betrachten sondern nur als "weniger beschissen"...</p><p>Trotzdem sind auch diese weil zentralisierte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> - Lösungen nicht gut.</p><p>Ich persönlich nutze seit &gt; 15 Jahren <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> und kann u.a. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moniclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>moniclesChat</span></a> empfehlen...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> Not to mention the existing features like support for <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/@i2p" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>i2p</span></a></span> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/I2P" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>I2P</span></a>, which makes <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MoniclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MoniclesChat</span></a> a really nice choice in terms of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Privacy</span></a>.</p>