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Thomas BarrioLes principes d’Elinor Ostrom : une gestion démocratique et durable des communsComment gérer collectivement les ressources naturelles sans tomber dans la surexploitation ? Elinor Ostrom a identifié huit principes pour une gouvernance efficace et démocratique des communs, inspirant les alternatives à la privatisation comme à la bureaucratie étatique. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Communs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Communs</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autogestion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Autogestion</a> Elinor Ostrom, prix Nobel d’économie en 2009, a révolutionné la compréhension des…<a href="https://homohortus31.wordpress.com/2025/05/16/les-principes-delinor-ostrom-une-gestion-democratique-et-durable-des-communs/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://homohortus31.wordpress.com/2025/05/16/les-principes-delinor-ostrom-une-gestion-democratique-et-durable-des-communs/</a>

Michael Blume<a href="https://mastodon.social/@max_muehsal" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@max_muehsal</a> Sorry, aber da gehe ich nicht mit. <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Wasser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wasser</a> war für die alten <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Zivilisationen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zivilisationen</a> von <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Mesopotamien" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mesopotamien</a>, <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/%C3%84gypten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ägypten</a> & im Industal, aber auch z.B. für das Judentum & die christliche Taufe schon lange vor jedem „Kapitalismus“ relevant. Der <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Aralsee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Aralsee</a> wurde im <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Sozialismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Sozialismus</a> zerstört. Und Elinor <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> zeigte, warum Wasser idealerweise weder durch private Unternehmen noch durch Nationalstaaten verwaltet wird. Deswegen der Hinweis. <a href="https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/elinor-ostrom-und-diskussionen-mit-marxismus-glaeubigen/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/elinor-ostrom-und-diskussionen-mit-marxismus-glaeubigen/</a>

Michael BlumeI disagree, <a href="https://writing.exchange/@alxd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@alxd</a> <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Solarpunk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Solarpunk</a> is rooted in <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/anarchism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#anarchism</a>, not in etatist <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/socialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#socialism</a>. <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Punk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Punk</a> in the former GDR & current fossilist regimes of the left such as in <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Venezuela" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Venezuela</a> or <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/SouthAfrica" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SouthAfrica</a> are making the point.For Solarpunks, economic thinking did not stop with white males of the 18th or 19th century such as <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Smith" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Smith</a> or <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Marx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Marx</a>. We are looking for a future with contemporary, dialogical & also female voices such as the great economist Elinor <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a>. <a href="https://norden.social/@T_recks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@T_recks</a> <a href="https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/elinor-ostrom-und-diskussionen-mit-marxismus-glaeubigen/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/elinor-ostrom-und-diskussionen-mit-marxismus-glaeubigen/</a>

𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽<a href="https://sueden.social/@BlumeEvolution" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BlumeEvolution</a> <a href="https://norden.social/@Krautreporter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Krautreporter</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@tazgetroete" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tazgetroete</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/Genossenschaften" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Genossenschaften</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/Journalismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Journalismus</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/Fediversum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediversum</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/Medien" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Medien</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/Wirtschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wirtschaft</a> Es gibt in jedem Fall grosse Nähe. Ein Problem bei dieser Begriffserweiterung sehe ich darin, dass "Fediverse" erst mal was rein technisches beschreibt, aus dem sich dann soziale Dynamiken und Kommunikationsmuster ergeben. Mit der technischen Struktur des Fediverse hat genossenschaftlicher Journalismus wenig zu tun.

Michael BlumeIch tendiere entlang der Wirtschaftsnobelpreisträgerin Elinor <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> (1933 - 2012) "Jenseits von Markt und Staat" immer stärker dazu, von Menschen finanzierte <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Genossenschaften" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Genossenschaften</a> des (auch) digitalen <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Journalismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Journalismus</a> wie <a href="https://norden.social/@Krautreporter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Krautreporter</a> oder <a href="https://mastodon.social/@tazgetroete" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tazgetroete</a> als Teil des <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Fediversum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediversum</a> zu verstehen. Nachvollziehbar? <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Medien" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Medien</a> <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Wirtschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wirtschaft</a>

Michael Blume<a href="https://mastodon.social/@87Barner" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@87Barner</a> Ja, Elinor <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> ist ein guter Anfang, um sich künftige Wirtschaftssysteme jenseits des Markt-Staat-Dualismus vorstellen zu können. Ihre Nobelpreis-Rede hieß ja auch genau so: "Jenseits von Markt und Staat". Von hier aus lassen sich Konzepte wie erneuerbare <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Friedensenergien" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Friedensenergien</a> und auch <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Solarpunk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Solarpunk</a> leicht erschließen - und die Kritik am Bestehenden - am <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Fossilismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fossilismus</a>, der <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Timokratie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Timokratie</a> (Geldherrschaft) usw. - würde gar nicht weniger, aber präziser! <a href="https://energiewinde.orsted.de/koepfe-der-energiewende/michael-blume-antisemitismus-ressourcenfluch-oel-gas-konflikte-interview" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://energiewinde.orsted.de/koepfe-der-energiewende/michael-blume-antisemitismus-ressourcenfluch-oel-gas-konflikte-interview</a>

Müller :antifa: :coffeemug:Hab gerade meine Jahresabrechnung von <a href="https://norden.social/tags/ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ostrom</a> bekommen. Rückzahlung über 200€ 🥳 Wer hätte das gedacht, wo uns doch Insolvenzen durch hohe Strompreise und täglich zig Blackouts prognostiziert wurden. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Michael :donor:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/quote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#quote</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/bookstodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bookstodon</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/organizing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#organizing</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ostrom</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/economics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#economics</a>

Michael Blume<a href="https://kirche.social/@dzwoelfer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dzwoelfer</a> Oh, das freut mich sehr! Viel Freude beim Schmökern!Gerade auch diese starke, erweiterte Nobelpreis-Rede "Jenseits von Markt und Staat" hat mir geholfen, den überkommenen Markt-Staat-<a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Dualismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Dualismus</a> aus dem 19. Jahrhundert endgültig abzuwerfen, die Wirtschaftsgeschichte besser zu verstehen und mir zugleich eine vielfältige, freiheitliche Wirtschaft im <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Solarpunk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Solarpunk</a> vorzustellen. <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> ist m.E. unbedingt lesens- und bedenkenswert! <a href="https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/blume-ince-9-zur-wirtschafts-nobelpreistraegerin-elinor-ostrom/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/blume-ince-9-zur-wirtschafts-nobelpreistraegerin-elinor-ostrom/</a>

Michael BlumeVielen Dank, <a href="https://federation.network/@d_zwoelfer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@d_zwoelfer</a> - auch für Deine Frage. Elinor <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> durchbrach den Markt-Staat-<a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Dualismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Dualismus</a>, in dem sie historisch und empirisch vier verschiedene Organisationsformen von Wirtschaft unterschied: 1. Gemeinressourcen, 2. Öffentliche Güter, 3. Privatgüter, 4. Mautgüter. Wer also die elenden Debatten über die Thesen toter Männer des 18. und 19. Jahrhunderts hinter sich lassen möchte, wird bei ihr fündig! Diskutierte sie hier mit Prof. Ince (BWL). <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Wirtschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wirtschaft</a> <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Dialog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Dialog</a> <a href="https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/blume-ince-9-zur-wirtschafts-nobelpreistraegerin-elinor-ostrom/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/blume-ince-9-zur-wirtschafts-nobelpreistraegerin-elinor-ostrom/</a>

Dorothea Zwölfer (sie)Eine sehr kompakte Zusammenfassung dessen, was Dr. Blume unter "Solarpunk" versteht in einem Scilog vom August 2024, den ich eben erst entdeckte: >>[...] Solarpunks rebellieren erst einmal gegen ihre eigenen, internalisierten Feindbilder und Annahmen vom Fortschritt. Sie erlauben sich mit dem dialogischen Monismus persönlich und wissenschaftlich zu fragen, ob Besitz und Rausch, schrankenloser Individualismus und wechselnder Sex wirklich das Höchste sind, was Menschen je erreichen können. Gibt es nicht auch öffentliche Güter wie Wissen, Musik und Kunst? Bestehen nicht Gründe zur Dankbarkeit für Gesundheit und Gemeinschaft, für Liebe und Familie? Gibt es denn wirklich nur äußerliches, wirtschaftliches Wachstum auf fossile Kosten der Mitwelt und Mitmenschen, über dessen Verteilung dann Rechtslibertäre und linke Kollektivisten auf Ewigkeit [...] Familien und Religionsgemeinschaften verwalteten seit jeher auch gemeinschaftliche Güter, erfolgreiche Wasserwerke und Krankenhäuser gehören nicht privatisiert, sondern zu den Kommunen, Armeen zu Staatenbünden [...] Die Ökonomin Elinor <a href="https://federation.network/tags/Ostrom" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> [Anm. DZw.: <a href="https://federation.network/tags/Gemeinwohlökonomie" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gemeinwohlökonomie</a>?...] Du brauchst also auch nicht immer alle Tassen im Schrank zu haben, solange Du wiederum Vielfalt wertschätzt. [...] Die echte Rebellion besteht nicht darin, mit “No Future!” jede Verantwortung für das eigene Leben zu externalisieren, sondern im Mut zu Wissenschaft und Dialog. [...] Echte Solarpunk-Rebellion führt zum Ausstieg aus fossilen Zwängen hin zu erneuerbaren Friedensenergien und dezentraler Energiedemokratie, zu Weltoffenheit und Kreislaufwirtschaft, zur Vielfalt von Mitmenschen und Mitwelten, zu wissenschaftlichen Entdeckungen [...]<< <a href="https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/gegen-wen-und-was-rebelliert-der-post-fossile-solarpunk/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/gegen-wen-und-was-rebelliert-der-post-fossile-solarpunk/</a> <a href="https://sueden.social/@BlumeEvolution" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BlumeEvolution@sueden.social</a> Danke! Nachfrage: Vertritt Ostrom so etwas wie eine <a href="https://federation.network/tags/Gemeinwohlökonomie" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gemeinwohlökonomie</a> - ich wurde neulich auf dieses Konzept hingewiesen, habe aber im Blick auf Ökonomie/Volkswirtschaft bislang kaum etwas gelesen und nahezu Null Vorkenntnisse... <a href="https://federation.network/tags/Solarpunk" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Solarpunk</a>

Thomas Barrio<a href="https://scicomm.xyz/@dripping1911" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dripping1911</a> Les principes d'Elinor Ostrom sont essentiels pour la gestion des ressources arctiques face aux défis climatiques. En favorisant l'auto-organisation et la coopération, ils offrent un cadre pour préserver ces écosystèmes fragiles. 🌍🌊 L'Arctique, riche en ressources, nécessite une gouvernance collective pour éviter la surexploitation. Ensemble, agissons pour un avenir durable ! 💪✨ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arctique" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Arctique</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ChangementClimatique" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChangementClimatique</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BiensCommuns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BiensCommuns</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/durabilite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#durabilite</a>

Müller :antifa: :coffeemug:Monatsanfang bedeutet auch <a href="https://norden.social/tags/stromverbrauch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#stromverbrauch</a> ablesen und in die <a href="https://norden.social/tags/ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ostrom</a> App eingeben. Feststellen, dass ich meinen Abschlag um 2€ unterschritten habe und so die Rückzahlungssumme wieder steigt ☺️

DamiánOs Montes Veciñais en Man Común de Galicia e os Baldios de Portugal son propiedades comunitarias que contan con traxectorias sociais, económicas e ambientais moi semellantes. Velaquí o artigo "Montes Veciñais en Man Común e Baldios: Unha análise comparativa das propiedades comunitarias de Galicia e Portugal" no que se comparan ambas figuras de xestión colectiva do monte <a href="https://revistas.usc.gal/index.php/semata/article/view/5379" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://revistas.usc.gal/index.php/semata/article/view/5379</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/cmvmc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cmvmc</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/accioncolectiva" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#accioncolectiva</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/montesveci%C3%B1ais" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#montesveciñais</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ostrom</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/recursosdeusocomun" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#recursosdeusocomun</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/comunidadesdemontes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#comunidadesdemontes</a>

Usufruct Collective"The following adaptation of Ostrom’s rules for managing the commons is informed by libertarian socialism/communism/communalism, organizations and revolutions influenced by libertarian socialism that utilize community assemblies related to common decisions and resources, various commons Ostrom looks at, as well as an expanded history of commoning in multiple modes of subsistence: 1. Participants know they are part of a group and what the group is about (Wilson, 2016). 2. Agreements for sharing and at times rotating labor/work and implementation of decisions as well as for sharing the fruits thereof (Kropotkin, 1906, Sixth Commission of the EZLN, 2016, Ostrom, 2021, Usufruct Collective, 2022). People can co-create a cornucopia where there is more than enough for all or otherwise agree to specific ways of distributing less abundant fruits of re/production according to needs. 3. Direct collective decision making by participants through deliberation. For there to be self-management of each and all, there must also be mutual non-domination. By extension, community assemblies related to the commons should utilize direct, participatory, and non-hierarchical forms of democracy (Bookchin, 2005b). 4. Organizational transparency that allows participants to mutually-monitor the commons (Atkins, Wilson, Hayes, 2019). This can happen through the process of co-managing and interacting with the commons, collective action, living in community with others, relevant accounting/calculation as needed, and availability of relevant information to participants. 5. Graduated defense against domination and exploitation such as: informal social disapproval, self-defense and defense of others as needed, and recourse to expelling someone from a particular collective (through deliberation, assembly, and due process) in response to the most extreme violations of the commons and freedoms of persons (Boehm, 2001, Ostrom, 2021, Usufruct Collective, 2023). 6. Good-enough conflict resolution such as: people talking directly to each other, mediation to find out how to move forward, dispute resolution to resolve disputes, restorative justice and transformative justice processes for people to repair harm and transform causes thereof, and organization-wide assembly when the conflict is in regards to organizational form and content. (Kaba, 2019, Usufruct Collective, 2023). 7. Communities and participants need sufficient autonomy to organize. 8. The use of co-federation and embedded councils. Community assemblies can co-manage inter-communal commons in a way where policy-making power is held by participants and assemblies directly (Bookchin, 1992, Ocalan, 2014). This enables self-management and mutual aid within and between communities as well as inter-communal management of the commons. Community assemblies can utilize mandated and recallable councils and rotating delegates to implement decisions within the bounds of policies made by community assemblies directly (Bookchin, 1992, 2007, 2018). "<a href="https://usufructcollective.wordpress.com/2024/10/22/ostroms-8-rules-of-the-commons-for-anarchists/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://usufructcollective.wordpress.com/2024/10/22/ostroms-8-rules-of-the-commons-for-anarchists/</a><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/anarchism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#anarchism</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/anarchy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#anarchy</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/democracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#democracy</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/directdemocracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#directdemocracy</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mutualaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mutualaid</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/commons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#commons</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/commoning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#commoning</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/communalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#communalism</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/libertariansocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#libertariansocialism</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/libertariancommunism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#libertariancommunism</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ostrom</a>

Adrian McEwen50 minutes to first mention of Ostrom 😀✊<a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/FoC24" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FoC24</a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/commons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#commons</a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/commoning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#commoning</a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/ElinorOstrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ElinorOstrom</a>

Daniel DvorkinA conversation.“When experts disagree, usually the best thing to do is listen to what the majority of experts say. There’s no guarantee that they’re right, but they’re more likely right than wrong. And if the majority view is overturned, it’s almost guaranteed that this will be done by other experts in the field presenting evidence for the minority view, not by random kibitzers.”“For the history buffs in here, while most scientific knowledge is advanced incrementally, the true breakthroughs are usually ridiculed by the reigning experts. That is why appeals to authority are the worst kind of logical fallacy for a scientist.”“That’s the pop-history version of scientific progress. The actual <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a> of <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#science</a> is very different. Kind of like the difference between ‘history buffs’ and historians.”===Yes, there are examples—a few—of genuine breakthroughs that were ridiculed by the scientific establishment of the day. I bet you know what they are, because everyone does. They laughed at <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Semmelweis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Semmelweis</a>, they laughed at <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Wegner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wegner</a>, they laughed at Luis and Walter <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Alvarez" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Alvarez</a>, they laughed at <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Marshall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Marshall</a> and <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Warren" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Warren</a>. These things happened.But they did not laugh at <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Galileo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Galileo</a>: indeed, they took his work with deadly seriousness. (And there really wasn’t any such thing as a “scientific establishment” at the time.) They did not laugh at <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Newton" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Newton</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Watt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Watt</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Darwin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Darwin</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Gibbs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gibbs</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Pasteur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Pasteur</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Einstein" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Einstein</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Curie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Curie</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Heisenberg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Heisenberg</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Fisher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fisher</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Watson" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Watson</a> and <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Crick" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Crick</a> and poor unacknowledged <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Franklin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Franklin</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Tharp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tharp</a> and <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Heezen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Heezen</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> and <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Bakker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bakker</a>, or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Hansen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hansen</a>, or the vast majority of scientists whose work has fundamentally changed our understanding of the universe.At least if by “they” you mean scientists working in relevant fields, who understood the questions at hand … not, in most cases, scientists from other fields, or those with no scientific experience at all. Nor the religious and political ideologues who muddy the waters by creating fake “controversies” to cast doubt on results they know are true, but cannot accept.In some cases they disagreed, quite vociferously. There were debates that descended into shouting matches, professional disagreements turned into personal feuds, once-eminent researchers become sad cranks, ruined careers and shortened lives. Yes. These things happened too, and that’s a tragedy.But most of the time, most researchers in the same fields as the revolutionaries said, “Oh, that makes sense!” Problems that had seemed insoluble suddenly became simple, or at least it was possible to see how there might be an elegant solution. Major discoveries spawned a host of medium-sized ones, each of which in turn spawned endless minor ones—and endless minor papers, academic bread and butter for when you can’t get steak and lobster. Everyone wins.Those ideologues I mentioned above? They really, really want you to believe the narrative of ridicule. You might want to consider why.

MörtelMönchJetzt habe ich den tollen neuen Stromzähler und in der <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ostrom</a> App habe ich am 2. noch nicht den Zählerstand des vergangenen Monats…

Michael BlumeNein, lieber <a href="https://chaotic.social/@Parl_Kopper" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Parl_Kopper</a> - hier verstehen Sie mich tatsächlich noch falsch. Ich betone - wie <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> - die Potentiale „jenseits von Markt und Staat“-<a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Dualismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Dualismus</a>. Weder „nur“ Eigenverantwortung noch „nur“ Politik können <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Transformation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Transformation</a> schaffen, es braucht das Zusammenwirken beider. Aktuelles Beispiel: <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Elektroautos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Elektroautos</a>.<a href="https://troet.cafe/@Thea_gruen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Thea_gruen</a> <a href="https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/elinor-ostrom-und-diskussionen-mit-marxismus-glaeubigen/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/elinor-ostrom-und-diskussionen-mit-marxismus-glaeubigen/</a>

Michael Blume<a href="https://chaotic.social/@Parl_Kopper" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Parl_Kopper</a> Bei aller Zustimmung, bitte nicht so stark externalisieren: Das Problem sind niemals nur dualistisch „die“, sondern immer auch „wir“ (etwa als Kundinnen, Wähler, Nichtlesende).Zu <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Ostrom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ostrom</a> habe ich schon einiges gebloggt, zu <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/Helfrich" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Helfrich</a> möchte ich das gerne auch noch tun.<a href="https://troet.cafe/@Thea_gruen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Thea_gruen</a> <a href="https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/blume-ince-9-zur-wirtschafts-nobelpreistraegerin-elinor-ostrom/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/blume-ince-9-zur-wirtschafts-nobelpreistraegerin-elinor-ostrom/</a>

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