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Klevernotes: UI changes, performance improvements and more!
Cool app! I use Markdown a lot but think it makes little sense for writing notes. You want the text you write resemble what you mean, its for yourself not some latex project others should read.
So I prefer Nextclouds editor a lot. Using something similar would be revolutionary, for sure an efficient Qt/Iced app is nice, but its nothing new.
@Pantherina @louis_sch Markdown *does* resemble what you mean though. Like, that's part of the intent of Markdown (and also part of why it became so popular), that the raw markup is readable and lends itself to being understood in the same way as the formatted version. The markup for emphasis actually looks like emphasis; the markup for a list looks like a list; likewise for a section header, or a table or footnote if you're using a variant that supports those, or so on. So I don't think that particular argument that Markdown is not good for note-taking holds up very well.
Sorry “display what you mean” is of course a “WYGIWYM” triggerword. I mean notes should have bold headers, not hashtags. It is readable but its strange to use. Why not use plain text then? I think the separation between writing and viewing is strange, as this makes little sense for stuff you write and read alone.
@Pantherina "I mean notes should have bold headers, not hashtags." OK, but that reflects what *you* want from a notes app, not what everyone wants. And of course that's totally fine, you can get that from a notes app that has WYSIWYG formatting if you find that it works for you. But I would suggest that it doesn't make sense for you to enter a discussion about a Markdown notes app and tell a bunch of people, for many of whom that app probably works pretty well, that they're making a bad choice to use it because it doesn't offer the behavior you want.
For what it's worth, I think a lot of people use Markdown notes apps in a way that you might not be considering. Like, this separation between writing and viewing that you're talking about simply doesn't exist in my note-taking workflow. I usually just read the raw markup, possibly with some minimal formatting added on by whatever app I'm using.
But I would suggest that it doesn’t make sense for you to enter a discussion about a Markdown notes app and…
I dont. I just think that writing inline Markdown formatting is really nice and better than clicking buttons, and at the same time I think that Nextcloud Notes has a pretty nice concept.
So it you view the raw code always, what is the benefit of markdown here? I dont see how
### Header
Is better than
--- Header ---
Which is what I normally use as header formatting in scripts etc.
@Pantherina @diazona @louis_sch
Having an option to choose should keep twice as many people happy. The markdown apps I use, don't show any formatting marks, and have style icons. Lots of us outside the IT world are used to this wysiwyg way.
@Pantherina I thought I replied to this earlier, whoops... but anyway, yeah, Markdown might not be *intrinsically* any better than some other markup format that looks like what it represents, but it does have a couple things going for it:
1. Wide adoption: once you learn Markdown, you can use it all over the place. Part of why I like writing notes in Markdown is that I write so many other things in Markdown that it's very natural for me to use it and read it.
2. It's machine-readable, if I ever do want my notes to appear in some form other than plain text, there's probably an existing script or library or something that I can use to convert them.