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@timo21 @ThomHartmann @_L1vY_ Glad to see this information because I had no idea I’d have to get a copy of my marriage certificate! Birth certificate too for me. This will be time-consuming and expensive. I’d think it should be the case for women not to be penalized where men are not. Thus a request for birth certificate no charge should be the standard when it’s only for a Real ID.

Nerb

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Some of us males also can run into issues. I was born overseas at Johnson Air Force base in Japan which no longer is there. I spent a good bit of time chasing down how to get a certified copy of my birth certificate so we could get passports . All I had was a copy and it was almost illegible. If anyone else has a similar problem it's not a traditional birth certificate it's called a Consular Report of Birth Abroad AKA Form FS-240. Here is where to go to get one.

travel.state.gov/content/trave

travel.state.govHow to Replace or Amend a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA)Information on how to replace or amend your Consular Report of Birth Abroad, known as a CRBA.

@nerb I also had to help a US friend whose mom was born on a base in Germany get the mom’s birth certificate. Theoretically it’s easy, there is a website (albeit in German) … but you gotta transfer 10€. That’s fairly difficult from a US bank account and can be impossible. I paid it from my German account.

@nerb German here with a perhaps dumb question: How can you enrol a child to school without a birth certificate/certified copy of it? How do you get a driver's licence? Don't you need it for that?

Perhaps I'm just too used to our bureaucratic mindset...

@Hypatia

Maybe different now than when I was younger.

Perhaps a birth certificate was needed or maybe my parents showed proof they were American. I was young so no clue what my parents had to do. Dad passed back in 1992 and mom has Alzhiemers so no way to find out.

I know nothing was shown as far as citizenship for a drivers license which I took back in the 60's. When I started working while in high school I had to get a SS number which I filled forms out for and mailed off but no proof of who I was .

When I turned 18 and had to go to the principals office to register for the draft it was just a form I sighed. No birth certificate needed when I won the lotto and had to report to basic training ( military ).

I finally needed proof I was American when I went to get a passport. A birth certificate is proof. And took quite a bit to get since no one seemed to know what to do. Now they have a web site you can go to but I did it with phone calls and letters.

@nerb I didn't ask regarding citizenship, but regarding identity. You're applying for college with your high school diploma, so if there is no identity check when entering said school - how do they check for fraud?

In Germany you need the birth certificate to enroll a child in primary school. Well, and of course papers telling who the legal guardians are (though we don't have this "who can pick up the child"-list etc I often hear about from the US. Our schools are open.) + a health check.