I’ve wondered about #PHEV as a technology. I’ve never owned one, but anecdotally a lot of people seem to do all they can to avoid activating the ICE engine. So they’re effectively driving a very short-range EV with a useless 500 lb ICE engine. Is that really a good way to go?
A long time ago I owned an early hybrid (not PHEV): a 7th gen Honda Civic Hybrid. Regular hybrids still make logical sense to me…for some reason. I just wonder about PHEV.
https://evcurvefuturist.com/2025/01/why-phevs-are-losing-their-shine/
I think people often buy a car based on their most extreme use case and not their typical use case.
So they get a plugin hybrid because they're worried about the range and rechargers for a full EV and they want to occasionally do a long road trip.
But the majority of their daily driving is in the 20-40 mile range which can fit in the small battery.
AC propulsion (the predecessor to Tesla) tested a range extender gas engine trailer you could attach to an EV to make it a long range hybrid when you need it.
I thought that might've been a better solution. Especially if we made those long range trailers rentable.
I found a Toyota version of the idea still online with photos
http://www.evnut.com/rav_longranger.htm
And honestly an EV with a smaller regular battery but some way to add more batteries when needed might be more affordable and still adaptable to the occasional longer trip.
@alienghic I hadn’t heard of the gas-engine trailer before. Interesting. Agreed about people buying for the extreme use case. That affects me as well. I just wonder if a regular hybrid where you’re nearly always using the engine and nearly always using the electric motor for generation or regeneration makes more sense than a PHEV, for people who can’t or won’t commit to a BEV.
I might have a skewed sense of efficiency though — something that can go unused but that costs you is a waste. If you use everything all the time, it’s efficient.
The trailers were a rare prototype, I think they should've been explored more though.
@forresttanaka
I own a PHEV and like it overall. On weekdays I generally just need to take short local drives, running on electricity for 90-100% of that. On weekends I frequently drive >350 miles to the mountains and back, in rural areas where charging infrastructure is nearly non-existent.
My biggest pet peeve with the vehicle is that during cold weather the gas engine ALWAYS runs for the first 10 minutes or so after turning on the car. I also wish it had double the electric range.