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@AngelaScholder :
> "Hamas zie ik echt wel als terreurorganisatie met de doelstelling die ze hebben en het feit dat ze hun eigen bevolking ook duidelijk onderdrukken."

Ik ken geen enkel land waarin niet tenminste een klein deel van de bevolking roept dat zij hun regering haten. Overal zijn demonstraties en opstandjes (tenzij je meteen wordt opgepakt en de bak in gaat).

Heb je betrouwbare bronnen waaruit blijkt dat, vóór 7 okt 2023, een meerderheid van de bevolking niet opnieuw Hamas als leiders zou kiezen? (Nb. er komt enorm veel #Hasbara uit Israël en de VS, en ook de NOS kleurt nieuws).

Na 7 okt. wordt een lastig verhaal, de meeste mensen willen in de eerste plaats overleven. Als de kans daarop groter is zonder Hamas, dan moet dat maar.

Maar net als de IDF bestaat uit vaders, zoons, broers, dochters en zussen, geldt dat ook voor Hamas - dat lang niet alleen uit gewapende vechtersbazen bestaat.

Een afschuwelijke, altijd terugkerende, bijkomstigheid bij gewelddadige conflicten is dat de grootste hufters komen bovendrijven - in beide kampen. Ik zal 7 okt. nooit goedpraten, maar ik begrijp de opgekropte frustraties wel (#FrancescaAlbaneseIsRight ).

Een streep tussen burgers en soldaten is een theoretische. En als Hamas terroristen zijn, wat is de IDF dan? En hun opdrachtgevers, en de Mossad (denk bijv. aan de ontploffende pagers)?

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@auschwitzmuseum : why do you spam Hasbara, instead of (at the very least) append your online database with usable information for peope who want to know what happened to their relatives in the past?

In addition, you could create a per-day overview of people who were emprisoned and/or murdered in Auschwitz on your website - for everyone who wants to remember in a non-disgusting way.

Previous toot with my remarks, often about the dehumanizing blunders you make while spamming: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

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@auschwitzmuseum : you clearly stole the picture from joodsmonument.nl/nl/page/46355.

And your employee either doesn't care about WWII victims or she/he is blind (the latter seems extremely unlikely).

The employee also forgot to copy the accompanying text (and have it translated, for example by Google Translate) which reads:

"Het gezin Van de Kar, waarvan de vader (r) de oorlog heeft overleefd. V.l.n.r. Anna, Louis, moeder Flora en Benvenida van de Kar. Privé collectie Geplaatst door Ernest Gompers (redactie). Op 22 aug. 2011.
Alle rechten voorbehouden"

Google translates that into:

"The Van de Kar family, whose father (right) survived the war. From left to right: Anna, Louis, their mother Flora, and Benvenida van de Kar. Private collection. Posted by Ernest Gompers (editor). August 22, 2011.
All rights reserved"

Also:

• MOTHER Flora van der Kar is not registered in victims.auschwitz.org/victims?.

• Daniel van der Kar, born on Nov. 24, 1912, is not in registered in victims.auschwitz.org/victims?.

• The young girl Anna van der Kar is not registered in victims.auschwitz.org/victims? (all people found by that name are too old to be her).

• The young boy Louis van der Kar is not registered in victims.auschwitz.org/victims? (the man mentioned there is older than the boy's father Daniel).

The young girl Benvenida van der Kar is not registered in victims.auschwitz.org/victims?.

WHY NOT?!

The Auschwitz Zionists do not care about WWII victims.

They want click-cattle to BOOST their spam. And they were quite "successful" this time: 83 boosts and 56 favorites by people enjoying pathetic "most-adorable-murdered-people-contests" of WWII victims.

Would you like YOUR photo to be broadcast all over the internet - after YOU have become a victim, without anyone wondering whether you do not want that to happen?

Notably for pro-Israeli propaganda? (read the "Resolution" at the bottom of auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw).

List of *a lot* more Auschwitz blunders: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

“Critical Mass Achieved”

by Ramzy Baroud in Savage Minds on Substack

@palestine @israel

“In politics, critical mass is achieved when an idea, initially championed by a minority group, decisively transforms into a mainstream issue. [..]. In many societies around the world, the Palestinian cause has already attained that critical mass”

open.substack.com/pub/savagemi

Savage Minds · Critical Mass AchievedBy Ramzy Baroud
#Press#Israel#Gaza
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@auschwitzmuseum : are you *BLIND* or what?

19971 is NOT
19771

So few lines and so many blunders.

Why do you not care about individual WWII victims? Is it because this man was NOT A JEW?!

And why do you spam WWII victims to the internet enticing some sort of disgusting beauty contest? Knowing that Jewish children and young Jewish women, catwalked on "lovely" pre-captivity pictures, get most boosts, while the lives of non-Jews on tripple in-captivity photos (or Roma and Sinti without images) is "worth" less - when counting boosts?

IT'S PATHETIC: ANOTHER SELECTION POST MORTEM

Previous sickening blunder: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

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@auschwitzmuseum : what a DISGUSTING mess.

The number of dehumanizing errors you make is beyond belief.

You sinply DO NOT CARE about WWII victims. You just want people to pity Jews living now, in Israel in particular. It's called Hasbara and it is DISGUSTING.

Israel did not even exist during WWII.

And why is Fradja Azous is not even in your online database?

Please kick out all ZIONISTS such as Avner Shalev [1] and Dani Dayan (IHRA bobo) [2] of the Auschwitz Council and stop dehumanizing WWII victims!

[1] auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw

[2] from jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflic:

The council, including Deputy Chairman Dani Dayan, Chairman of the Yad Vashem Institute, and Deputy Chairman Albert Stankowski, Director of the Warsaw Ghetto Museum, affirmed, "Threatened in its existence, the State of Israel has the right to self-defense in accordance with international law and the principles of humanitarianism. The existence of a free, sovereign, and democratic Jewish State is one of the pillars of world peace."

The full resolution, 100% Israel propaganda denying another genocide, is still at the bottom of:auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw.

Long list of Auschwitz blunders: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

of course, we should all use freetube, newpipe, invidious or any other app that allows us to circumvent youtube. if you're not, let YT's permission for israel's foreign affairs ministry to run the most ghastly pro-genocide campaign be your catalyst.
this one is spreading their freshest bullshit that children aren't dying from deliberate starvation & malnutrition; they've all got pre-existing conditions.
#hasbara #propaganda #palestine #gaza #youtube #freePalestine

#Hasbara getting sneakier.

Subtle suggestion that ISR gov folk make different statemenrs to different audiences. Misleading conclusion: We can not be sure that they're planning to exterminate or ethnically cleanse everyone in #Gaza even though they say that is what they'll do.

Don't be fooled.

Look at what the genocidal butchers have done and what is being done right now.

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@pomubieng (who will probably not read this, because mastodon·social blocks me for condemning the latest genocide):

Auschwitz is in Poland, not Germany. Not just Jews, also a lot of non-Jew Polish people were murdered there.

And also a lot of Dutch Jews, including those with my last name: victims.auschwitz.org/victims?.

Note: my grandfather, born in 1900, was a Jew. He survived WWII (he was sent to Nazi labour camps) but his family was murdered by the Germans.

My grandfather would probably have condemned Israel for the atrocities they commit.

And he, very likely, would loathe the dumping of pictures of WWII victims on the internet - and the subsequent "beauty contest", where Auschwitz victims are selected AGAIN - 80 years later. Young women and children depicted on pre-captivity photos get most boosts. Shame on those boosters.

So, what drives the CURRENT Auschwitz maintainers?

From x.com/AuschwitzMuseum/status/1:

This act of barbarity will be judged by history, and its perpetrators, it is to be hoped, also by the International Court of Justice.

As we stand at the Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial, it is impossible to remain silent while, once again, innocent people are being killed purely because of insane pseudo- imperial megalomania.

Now that sounds hopeful!

However, that was the response of the current Auschwitz maintainers to Russia invading Ukraine (screenshot 1 below).

For •Israel• their attitude is entirely different, as can be seen in the resolution they published (at the bottom of auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw - screenshot 2 below).

Not -emotionally- published on Oct. 7, 2023 - but after giving it careful thought, on Nov. 18, 2023.

Here's one of the sentences from that resolution - that they have not yet withdrawn or edited to condemn Israel for the current genocide:

Threatened in its existence, the State of Israel has the right to self-defense in accordance with international law and the principles of humanitarianism.

AFAIK this has nothing to do with Germans, but may be (heavily) influenced by donations from the "promised land" (and not wanting to lose any of them).

Said resolution may have been written by Avner Shalev (auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw), a former high-ranked IDF-officer.

In May 2008 Avner Shalev wrote an article titled "If everything is genocide" that was published in (paywall) haaretz.com/2008-05-02/ty-arti) but also in (free to read) yadvashem.org/about/former-cha.

From that article (remember, from 2008):

Recently, yet another Hamas spokesperson compared the situation in Gaza to events during the Holocaust. Coming from an official who represents a body that unabashedly declares its commitment to terrorism and the destruction of Israel, this is in itself not surprising.
[...]
Language has power. The words we choose to use carry weight, and are meaningful. If we elect to label every event a "genocide," or equate every event with the Holocaust, then we detract from the real meaning of those words and reduce their ability to represent true horror.

Subsequently, when faced with a real incident of genocidal murder, people will be less likely ot be moved to act. If everything is genocide, nothing is genocide.

If Avner Shalev would NO LONGER deny that Israel is committing genocide on the Palestinians, he'd retract or edit their resolution.

P.S. I demand that Auschwitz victims are treated respectfully. Dumping photos with two lines of text (very often plain wrong, see the "linked" list of my findings: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat), covertly advertising for Israel, often without adding victims or missing details to their online database, is extremely disrespectful.

At least *I* would not want to be "Facebooked" if I'd been murdered in a concentration camp.

At any reader: would you? And if you don't mind, why don't you respect people who may have a different opinion? Why don't you go to a Holocaust museum to see evrything in context, instead of a quick and dirty boost - claiming to "remember", and to learn WHAT exactly?

Never again?

@amokura @auschwitzmuseum

Vertrouwen in wetenschap: erosie?

Op 12 mei 2024 schreef Jessica V. Roitman, hoogleraar Joodse Studies aan de Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, in NRC (paywall als Jacascript aan staat: nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/05/12/activ):


Activistische academici dragen bij aan de erosie van het vertrouwen in de wetenschap"

Precies, zij heeft toen goed in de spiegel gekeken.

Zij schreef namelijk onder meer:

Al lang vóór 7 oktober was duidelijk dat de activistische wetenschappers de volledige context van het Israëlisch-Palestijnse conflict niet willen zien. Op mijn eigen universiteit stond bijvoorbeeld in een stuitend eenzijdige cursusbeschrijving dat Israël een „apartheidsstaat” is.
[...]
Slachtofferschap
Wie Israëliërs steevast als witte onderdrukkers neerzet, negeert willens en wetens de inheemse identiteit van de Joden in Israël, hun etnische heterogeniteit, hun geschiedenis van slachtofferschap en migratie, de afwijzing van vrede door generaties Palestijnse leiders – en ook dat Israël een raciaal, etnisch en religieuze diverse samenleving heeft die veel Arabieren en mensen met uiteenlopende afkomst en achtergrond als volwaardige burgers omarmt.

Haar type krijgt steeds minder vaak een podium (m.i. terecht). Wij zijn niet een land met "Joods-Christelijke" traditie, zoals GW u en mij graag wil doen geloven.

Ik kwam ook een (m.i. wél oogstrelend) artikel van één dag eerder tegen (13 mei 2024), uit trouw.nl/buitenland/antropoloo:

De Joods-Israëlische antropoloog Maya Wind onderzocht in haar nieuwe boek de verwevenheid van Israëlische universiteiten met de staat en het leger, en pleit voor een academische boycot. ‘Het zijn grondig gemilitariseerde instituten die in dienst staan van bezetting en apartheid.’

Vol walging denk ik nu aan "verwarde mensen" zoals Frits Barend, Rob Oudkerk en Ronald Plasterk - maar met enorm respect gaan mijn gedachten nu uit naar de dappere Chaja Polak (zoals in youtube.com/watch?v=FJV28PlfqXg).

Opmerkelijk: op het einde van de #ZioNPOKennis aflevering "Wat is Zionisme" (waar ik eerder naar verwees in infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat) stond aanvankelijk dat die #Zionistische #Hasbara in samenwerking met een docente Joodse studies (VU of UVA als ik mij goed herinner) was gemaakt; de naam van die vrouw is ondertussen verdwenen van de laatste pagina daarvan (ik weet niet meer of het om de auteur van het eerst door mij genoemde artikel hierboven gaat, maar dat zou mij niet verbazen [edit/correctie 16:39 - het staat op de vóórlaatste pagina: "Deze story is in samenwerking met prof. dr. Jessica Roitman van de Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam gemaakt"]).

Het lijkt bij een steeds breder publiek door te dringen:

#AntiZionisme is GÉÉN #AntiSemitisme

BELANGRIJK: bijna alle Zionisten en hun supporters (PVV, VVD, BBB, SGP, JA21, CU, CvI, ...) claimen dat iedereen met Joodse roots ófwel een Zionist - ófwel een AntiSemiet is: dat is één van hun afschuwelijke leugens.

Laat je niet misleiden!

@RobinFriend

Hoping it's okay if I ask you a question, after you boosted an Auschwitz toot •and• an anti-genocide message.

Beforehand: my grandfather was a Jew. He survived WWII; he was sent to Nazi labor camps instead of Auschwitz because he was maried to a Dutch woman. His family was murdered by the nazis.

Are you aware of the resolution at the bottom of auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw - (which you may want to compare to another statement, x.com/AuschwitzMuseum/status/1) of the *current* maintainers of the Auschwitz concentration camp?

EXPLANATION
I'm sure that my grandfather would not have liked pictures of his murdered family to be spread and boosted all over the internet. This really differs from showing them in a Holocaust museum, visited by people who are really interested in what happened, and believe in Never Again - for everyone.

More importantly, the current Auschwitz maintainers do not seem to care about Holocaust victims at all (they make lots of dehumanizing errors in their toots and never correct them, like in mastodon.world/@auschwitzmuseu - a photo of grownup Dutch woman Rebecca Vijevano shown below the text describing "A French Jewish girl, Doris Mireille" who was murdered before her second birthday).

The current Auschwitz maintainers apparently search the internet looking for adorable (pre-captivity) photos of Auschwitz victims - however, mostly for Jews (with a few exceptions, like in the toot you boosted). For example, holocaust.cz/en/database-of-vi asks visitors to treat victim information respectfully (also see infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat) - IMO that does not include dumping copies of pictures on X, Facebook or Mastodon.

Those Jewish victims typically cannot be found in the Auschwitz online victims database (victims.auschwitz.org/victims). The mainainers do not correct records (if wrong) and neither do they add missing information.

As another example, there's no record for "Doris Mireille" (victims.auschwitz.org/victims?) and the info describing Rebecca Vijevano (victims.auschwitz.org/victims/) is incorrect and incomplete - while they have the correct info, as can be seen in x.com/AuschwitzMuseum/status/1.

The woman in the toot you boosted cannot be found by the name used in that toot (victims.auschwitz.org/victims?) but, for a change, by her birth name (victims.auschwitz.org/victims?). However, no picture is shown in that record (and English speaking people may not know that Wiedeń is Polish for Vienna).

My point being: the current Auschwitz maintainers only want you to pity Jews who live now - Israeli's in particular. And they definitely do not want you to feel sorry for Palestinians.

By boosting their toots, people are amplifying Hasbara - they're helping Netanyahu (most people are probably not aware of this).

Even if that were not the case, IMO it is disrespectful to distribute pictures of victims of war all over the internet; it helps nobody.

“Dutch intelligence designates Israel a national security threat”

by Skwawkbox @skwawkbox @UKLabour @palestine
@israel

“The Netherlands have flagged Israel as serious threat to its national security threat because of the extent of its undue influence in the country and its disinformation campaigns to mislead Dutch politicians and public”

skwawkbox.org/2025/07/27/dutch

SKWAWKBOX · Dutch intelligence designates Israel a national security threatNetherlands security services flag Israel as danger to Dutch safety The Netherlands have flagged Israel as serious threat to its national security threat because of the extent of its undue influenc…
#Press#Israel#Gaza