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Petter Naslund

I'm a huge fan of the browser and a very happy customer of

Now, they've partnered to include Proton VPN directly in Vivaldi! 🎉

This is fantastic news!

@sponkae interesting, I didn’t know that, thanks!

@sponkae Yes this is great news. Thanks for posting!

@sponkae if you're already a proton user, what do you gain by having it in @Vivaldi ? It's way more secure to have the VPN at an OS level.

@foux @Vivaldi

I've set up VPN on my home router, so all my devices are now connected through it. This means I'll rarely need to use the VPN functionality on individual devices. I will rarely need to use the functionality myself.

It’s true that having the VPN at the OS level is more secure. A browser extension only encrypts browser traffic.

However, I think this setup is a solid stepping stone for those who haven’t used a VPN before.

It might spark curiosity about Proton's services and encourage more users to migrate from Big Tech to Proton, enhancing their online privacy and security.

has been gaining a significant number of new users lately. People are increasingly valuing European software alternatives and prioritizing privacy.

This trend presents a great opportunity to further assist new users in enhancing their privacy and supporting European tech.

@sponkae @Vivaldi @foux May I chime in with a question? Is it possible to setup Proton on OS level and still connect a) to the local subnet and b) to a work VPN (openvpn client) in parallel? I think I could manage this IP-wise, but I don't see how to use three different DNS servers. I need both work and local DNS server for split-DNS stuff, but would want to use proton dns for everything else.

@tobifant @Vivaldi @sponkae yes, both are common use case and easy to implement

@foux @sponkae @Vivaldi

There are web sites like Wikipedia that block login via VPN. Having a browser for non login stuff is interesting

@sponkae this partnership between #vivaldi and #protonvpn seemed like a good idea until I read this from @Linux

The praise for the partnership is supposedly because both companies are European. What's wrong here anyway?

mk.absturztau.be/notes/a5uym43

ぷにすきーLinux Is Best (@Linux)What happened to Vivaldi Browser? Vivaldi Browser is now bundled with Proton VPN. But Proton (the company) is a registered business in the United States. There are 200 or so independent countries, territories, and states world-wide. But as you know, corporations do not include terms and conditions for all 200 or so geographical jurisdictions. Businesses only include and worry about the jurisdictions that apply to them. That said, I would much rather let their own legal documentation speak for itself. Here are their terms concerning Proton. It has whole sections concerning US Customers and US Laws. https://proton.me/wallet/terms A company outside Us Law would not care about American laws, anymore than you would likely care about the law in North Korea, for example. Proton would like to argue, likely from a public relations standing point, that these terms only apply to Proton Wallet. But that is not how our laws work in the United States. You do not get to pick and choose which department is subject to US Law, anymore than you get to pick which Us Laws you want to follow. I am really disappointed that Vivaldi Browser, would bundle a company, is clearly subject to Us Laws and Us Jurisdiction. #Vivaldi #VivaldiWebBrowser #VivaldiBrowser RE: I can no longer recommend Vivaldi web browser, since it now bundles, software, governed under Us Law. Unfortunately, Vivavlid, was the last web browser, not to be subject to the laws of the United States, China, or Russia. #Vivaldi #VivaldiWebBrowser