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Forschende untersuchen mit der Messkampagne #ASCCI den Einfluss von #Ozon und #Wasserdampf auf den arktischen #Klimawandel.

Das #Forschungsflugzeug #HALO misst Spurenstoffe in der #Stratosphäre, um Prozesse wie den #Ozonabbau und die Auswirkungen des #HungaTonga-Ausbruchs zu analysieren.

Die Ergebnisse helfen, klimatische Veränderungen besser zu verstehen und #Satellitenmissionen wie #CAIRT vorzubereiten.

kit.edu/kit/pi_2025_018_flugze

www.kit.eduKIT - Das KIT - Medien - Presseinformationen - PI 2025 - Flugzeugkampagne: Klimawandel in der Arktis

A Seismic Precursor 15 Min Before The Giant Eruption Of Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai Volcano On 15 January 2022
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doi.org/10.1029/2024GL111144 <-- shared paper
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"KEY POINTS:
• The volcano generated Rayleigh waves about 15 min before the giant eruption with no apparent surface activity
• These waves dominated in 0.03–0.1 Hz with amplitudes comparable to the amplitude of M4.9
• Seismic stations 750 km from the volcano and appropriate data analyses allowed [them] to capture precursors of the catastrophic eruption..."

reuters.com/investigates/speci

Cool webstory by Reuters about future Iceland's and global volcanic eruptions to be triggered by retreating glaciers, when the weight of the ice is no longer keeping a lid on magma chambers.
Apart from neat writing, it's with video, lotsa photos, animated charts and everything one can think of to be included in #scicomm

tldr: yes, volcanic eruptions will increase with the retreat of glaciers. #Antarctica's volcanos too. #Earthquake activity has already been picking up in Iceland since 2021, also elsewhere in the #Arctic near glaciers, and around the globe.

It has happened before when Earth crawled out of the last #iceage into the #Holocene.

I might add: it happened not only at volcanos near glaciers. Rising #sealevel has triggered near-coastal volcanos, too, whether above or below the water. IIRC, a study on Stromboli proved it.

I personally think, #HungaTonga's eruption could have been one of the first submarine volcanos to have been triggered by #climateChange Another submarine volcano erupted near Japan in 2021 or 2022, forgot its name, starts with an O...
Not as huge an explosion like Hunga Tonga tho.

@Global_Repercussions @PaulWermer @dan613

Wrt #Hungatonga and the past 13 months: Jucker et al mapped the multi-year effect of the water vapour on precipitation, temperature and jet stream in a detailed global grid.

Their layman's prose article says specifically that according to their results HungaTonga is no factor at all in the bananas phenomenon.
theconversation.com/tongas-vol

Obviously the past months pique everyone's curiosity and I see no reason why we should not speculate wildly what the reasons might be. We are The Society. The science law does not fall into our jurisdiction, so to speak. That people like Rahmstorf don't speculate if they can't back it up with sciency looking stuff – that's fine. I'd rather people like him not speculating without a sliver of attempted proof.
But this rule doesn't apply to us, The Society.

The land carbon sink net collapsed in 2023. A station in Australia Cape Grim capegrim.csiro.au received the signal in January 2024ff. Later than other stations due to delay in atmospheric mixing.

El Nino is a CO2-intense phase. One can sync the CO2 growth rate in the Cape Grim time series to, for example, the ElNino phase 2016 by moving the monthly growth values 8 months back. This sort of helps to triangulate the CO2 sources that arrive in Cape Grim during El Nino phases. Having done that, one sees that last year's Nino CO2 source arrived at Cape Grim earlier than the signals in other Nino years. This points to a CO2-origin that is close by in terms of atmospheric mixing. Close by = in the Southern Hemisphere.

So. The drought in the Amazon? Something like intensified ocean upwelling?
Or... was the mixing stronger and quicker this time than in 2016 or 1997?

This week's Featured Links post has links to articles about how the summer COVID surges in the US and Canada say about our long-term future with the disease, a near disaster on a Shuttle mission in 1999, and a new study that disputes Hunga Tonga volcano's role in 2023–24 global warm-up.

coredump3.blogspot.com/2024/07

#Books, #OctaviaButler, #COVID19, #History, #Science, #SFF, #Space, #Volcanos #HungaTonga #ClimateChange

coredump3.blogspot.comFeatured Links - July 29, 2024Links to things I found interesting but didn't want to do a full blog post about. Marina sunset  Detecting Warp Drives . "The pre-print of a...

#HungaTonga was on the top of my list of suspects for the bananas year 2023. #Jucker et al's preprint on modelling the effect on #weather was my go-to for months. It has been peer-reviewed and published by now 🔒 journals.ametsoc.org/view/jour
or : d197for5662m48.cloudfront.net/

It just now occurred to me: their model comparison only flags *significant* changes over a planet without water injection into the #stratosphere. And what's more: in year1 after the eruption, which is 2023, only the jet stream showed significant changes. Not temperature. This realisation kinda proves to me that HungaTonga wasn't significant at all wrt temperature in 2023.

Wanting to double-check my realisation with the author on Twix, I found instead his tweet with his writeup in TheConversation💃 theconversation.com/tongas-vol

" This means that the incredibly high temperatures we have measured for about a year now cannot be attributed to the Hunga Tonga eruption." 💃

But like I suspected: the ultra-wet winter with damages in infrastructure, soil and crops in Western Europe was due to HungaTonga by way of its effect on the #jetstream.

And it will be repeated: "For the northern half of Australia, our model predicts colder and wetter than usual winters up to about 2029. For North America, it predicts warmer than usual winters, while for Scandinavia, it again predicts colder than usual winters."

... One more thing::::
Sadly, the #Arctic in year 3 to year 7 is modelled to warm by 0.5°C due to HungaTonga. Put that on top of the potentially permanent bananas heating in 2023 and 2024... then sea ice will shrink, albedo lost, fresh water dilute the AMOC, polar bears lose their cups.

And the temperature gradient between Arctic and equator will be less.
Which probably leads to stalling jetstream wave patterns. Stalling wave patterns spell heat and drought (and crazy omega blockings with heavy rain events). All of which makes crop loss likely in the bread baskets USA, Europe, Ukraine, Russia.
Like in 2018. But 5 years in a row...
OMG...fck

AMETSOC · Long-term climate impacts of large stratospheric water vapor perturbationsAbstract The amount of water vapor injected into the stratosphere after the eruption of Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai (HTHH) was unprecedented, and it is therefore unclear what it might mean for surface climate. We use chemistry climate model simulations to assess the long-term surface impacts of stratospheric water vapor (SWV) anomalies similar to those caused by HTHH, but neglect the relatively minor aerosol loading from the eruption. The simulations show that the SWV anomalies lead to strong and persistent warming of Northern Hemisphere landmasses in boreal winter, and austral winter cooling over Australia, years after eruption, demonstrating that large SWV forcing can have surface impacts on a decadal timescale. We also emphasize that the surface response to SWV anomalies is more complex than simple warming due to greenhouse forcing and is influenced by factors such as regional circulation patterns and cloud feedbacks. Further research is needed to fully understand the multi-year effects of SWV anomalies and their relationship with climate phenomena like El Nino Southern Oscillation.

Könnte die ungewöhnlich regenreiche Witterung der letzten Monate einen hintergründigen Zusammenhang mit Frankenstein, Byrons "Darkness" oder Polidoris "Vampir", kurz: dem Jahr ohne Sommer bzw. vulkanischen Winter 1816 haben? Eine vorläufige, trotzdem differenzierende Antwort wird hier versucht:
vulkane.net/blogmobil/hunga-to

Vulkane Net Newsblog · Hunga-Tonga-Ha'apai-Eruption beeinflusst Klima - Vulkane Net NewsblogEine neue Studie zeigt, dass der Vulkanausbruch in Tonga vom Jahr 2022 das globale Wetter bis mindestens 2030 beeinflussen könnte.

Good piece on the #HungaTonga eruption and it's (tiny to non-existent) impact on our climate from @andrewdessler .
I think my biggest takeaway from the attribution work is that (some) people will do almost anything to avoid accepting human emissions are driving climate change. open.substack.com/pub/theclima

The Climate Brink · The real lesson of the Hunga Tonga volcanic eruptionBy Andrew Dessler
Já jsem to říkal! Já jsem to říkal!
A vy jste mě neposlouchali! 🤪

Hunga Tonga byla zcela výjimečná. Udělala ze Země saunu(alespoň dočasně) a vůbec netušíme, co to ještě udělá. Ty poslední teplotní rekordy klidně můžou být následek tohoto skokového zvýšení vlhkosti v atmosféře.

ScienceAlert wrote the following post Sat, 01 Jun 2024 01:00:29 +0200 Giant Tonga Volcanic Eruption Could Disrupt Weather For Years to Come
https://www.sciencealert.com/giant-tonga-volcanic-eruption-could-disrupt-weather-for-years-to-come?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub

Posted into ScienceAlert @sciencealert-ScienceAlert

#HungaTonga #GlobálníOteplování #GlobalWarming
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Obviously, I now must investigate if 1994-1995 and 2016-2017 were in other ways similar to 2023-2024. My favourite culprit would be #HungaTonga – because it's treated as such an underdog in the 2023 discussion that I simply MUST side with that volcanic explosion.😁 (Really, how can they dismiss it? The explosion was HEARD in Alaska, 6000km away... !! Just because as submarine volcano it didn't emit much SO2? That's speci-ist!😁)

August-2016 was preceded by two VEI-4 eruptions in 2015 April and May. That's 17 months between eruptions and the 12 months freak growth rate in North Atlantic 35-50°N. Much like HungaTonga's 18 months between January 2022 and freak 2023-June.
Esp. in light of the sad fact that the #volcano database lists the start date of the eruptions, not the date of an eventual explosion. Eg, HungaTonga in the database has a start date in December 2021 but the VEI-5 explosion occurred mid January 2022. volcano.si.edu/search_eruption Who knows when the explosions in 2015 actually occurred. (Sad!)

Browsing the longer periods of strong growth rates and looking at number of eruptions and VEI4-6 explosions, I see a pattern emerge: immediately after many eruptions or strong explosions, growth rate of SST in the North Atlantic, Center and East longitudes, is negative for a while. But approximately 12 to 18 months after the major volcanic activity, growth rate jumps up and stays high for a few months.

1995 was preceded by 2 VEI-5 explosions in 1991, #Pinatubo in June and another 2 months later. Or let's say what the database really states: 2 volcanos started erupting in April and August 1991 and eventually exploded in a VEI-5. When the explosions occurred I can only tell for Pinatubo: in June. The August eruption might have exploded in 1993 for all we know.
Anyway, so there also was a volcanic match for the strong 1995-1996 growth rate period. Tho, it was very long ago. But that was due to so much SO2 in the system that it cooled the planet for 2 years. And only in 1995, the heating resumed with force, strengthened by an El Nino.

So yeah. As far as I am concerned, the mystery of the gobsmacking bananas 2023 > in the North #Atlantic < is solved. The SO2 reduction from #shipping by the "voluntary regulation" from #IMO is not THE culprit, or the major shipping routes in my rectangle would have behaved differently 2022 - 2023 than other "normal freak occurrences".
I'd have to analyse North Pacific the same way to increase my certainty. But I'm just a layperson, no scientific stringency required. I'll leave it to others. or do it some other #FridaysForFuture day if I feel like it.

Attached are screenshots of the chronological time series from April 1986 to March 2006 and from April 2004 to 2024-March like described in the previous toot. Now with three new columns: "volcanic eruptions", "VEI4-6" and "VEI5-6".

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@dderigo
Thank you for posting excerpts from Gavin Schmidt's article.

Isn't it a bit incoherent tho that he a) states that the weirdness set in several months before El Nino raised his head, and then b) expresses the hope that the weirdness might end with El Nino's end?

Also, I have a logic problem with Hunga-Tonga's alleged small global impact from stratospheric water vapour, and another problem regarding the voluntary SO2 reduction by the shipping industry. The latter is supposed to have come into "voluntary force" in 2020. Why would it have taken 24 months to have SUCH a sudden and noticeable effect on SST?
Hunga-Tonga's allegedly neglect-able, tiny impact on global weather is also odd. That water vapour is said to change wind strength in 300hPa (preprint Jucker et al 2023). Change in wind strength over flat ocean areas..., and with far-reaching effects. That East-Antarctic heatwave and atmospheric river in March 2022 for example originated in tropical storm activity (new paper from this year, forgot by whom) – activity which I say, maybe got triggered by #Hungatonga 's H2O injection. Greenland also had a heatwave at the very same time. Teleconnection?
The water vapour hadn't even reached either latitudes yet at that time. But the freshwater amount from both melt events is still in the system and doing its thing.
Ah well.
I don't like how that eruption is seen as neglect-able by minds which look at global averages and seem to have no feeling how seemingly regional changes echo through the whole system.

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Most volcanic eruptions that are large enough to reach the stratosphere lead to a brief period bit of global cooling due to the impact of sulfur aerosols.

However, Hunga Tonga was unusual in that it was rich in water vapor (a powerful greenhouse gas) and low in sulfur, leading to the unusual prediction that it could cause a slight global warming.

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@rahmstorf
Ja! In Kent, England wirds statt 14mt Weizen nur 10mt geben, weil Felder abgesoffen sind, steht vor 3 Tagen im Guardian.
Das liegt jetzt vll nicht an der #AMOC, sondern vll an #HungaTonga , aber so würde sich der Kollaps ja auch bemerkbar machen. Und fast jedes Jahr übler werden. Wenn es mal ein normales Jahr dazwischen gibt, werden Menschen hoffen wollen, dass sich alles normalisiert.

Ich will das alles NICHT!