@esoteric_programmer nice! I unfortunately missed that era, as my family had "only" a Nokia 1100 at home, but I read about them later. I wish #Symbian and its kind were still a thing (well, maybe #postmarketOS and #Mobian are the modern equivalents?)
There's a matrix client for #KaiOS called chooj, developed by @farooqkz
In the same theme is #Geoloquent, an attempt to rewrite the #FreeDesktop geolocation API in a type-safe language 
https://nlnet.nl/project/Geoloquent/
While I use #KaiOS on my main phone, I also carry a #Mobian device, so I'm happy for anything that'll help improve location services on there!
(Side note: the #Furiphone @furilabs has done a good job of making a "mainline" Linux phone that works, though with the compromise of having a bit of #Android some layers down)
6/n
I'm excited to announce that #Convo, my #XMPP messaging app for #KaiOS has received a grant from @nlnet, or, more specifically, @NGIZero! 
https://nlnet.nl/project/Convo/
I can now turn what began as a quick project made in a providential three weeks of free time into an app that can...actually do basic things like add contacts 
More importantly, it'll make the open and standardised messaging protocol available to a mobile platform where few large players have dared to tread 
Congratulations @badrihippo for getting your
NLnet grant for #Convo approved!
Under this, Badri will work on a #XMPP client for #KaiOS including #E2EE.
With a few modifications we could turn this into "#Prav for KaiOS/#JioPhone" as well 
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Win win for all of us
Details here nlnet.nl/project/Convo/
#Convo by @badrihippo makes me somewhat curious about #KaiOS devices, such as #Nokia800Tough.
https://nlnet.nl/project/Convo/
But I have already far too many toys to play with. If there only were an #openHardware + #freeSoftware variant of it…
I have published the next version of my webRTC chat apps for #KaiOS in the store. In this version I tried to improve the sharing of the device position and the connection setup of 2 peers. soon I have to take care of the inport of chatData to become more device independent. -> https://flop.chat
@cinimodev I never actually saw/read your reply, sorry 
Browsing is (maybe) the one thing I would expect #KaiOS to do well, since it is based on the now-defunct #FirefoxOS 
Regarding the (lack of) apps, did you check https://store.bananahackers.net/, an alternative app store? 
Couldn't you have bought a new SIM card subscribed to a very cheap plan? No Bluetooth? 
BTW: Guess who now has a (somewhat) functional, working Nokia E72 in 2025 
#symbian
if anyone has experience with #kaios, please help! i need a stock firmware image for a nokia 2780... :P
"#JamieZawinski has #repeatedly said:
Now hear me out, but What If…? #browser #development was in the hands of some kind of #nonprofit #organization?
In my #humble but #correct #opinion, #Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
#Building THE #reference #implementation #WebBrowser and
Being a jugular-#snapping #attack #dog on #standards #committees.
There is no 3."
"Perhaps this is the only #viable #resolution."
"#Mozilla, for all its many #failings, has #invented a lot of #amazing #tech, from #Rust to #Servo to the #leading #budget #phone #OS. It shouldn't be trying to #capitalize on this #stuff. Maybe 3encourage it to have semi-independent #spinoffs, such as #Thunderbird, and as #KaiOS ought to be, and as #Rust could have been."
"But #JamieZawinski has the only #clear #vision and #solution we've seen yet. Perhaps he's #right, and #Mozilla #should be a #nonprofit, #working to #fund the one #independent, non-#vendor-driven, #standardscompliant #browserEngine."
@daylymemes yay #kaios more buttons less distractions
Hello Fediverse. So I'm looking for a #remote #opensource job or project in European timezones.
I am not good in writing CVs. So I'm just listing the projects I have done:
#Rust(See https://codeberg.org/farooqkz/wakegp, https://github.com/deltachat-bots/deltachat-loginbot and https://github.com/deltachat/message-parser) #GeneticProgramming #Cranelift
#Typescript #Javascript #ReactJS #InfernoJS. I used to work on https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-desktop and https://codeberg.org/chooj/chooj (#chooj, #Matrix, #KaiOS)
#Lua #Luanti. I contribute to CTF game. I also play it extensively!
I'm a #Linux user. I have good experience using CLI, and I have basic shell scripting skills. I also have a little experience with #FreeBSD
I am also good at reading academic papers, standards(like RFCs) and manpages.
I am up for working on #FOSS projects as freelancer or part time contracts.
Boosts appreciated :)
PS: I am also familiar with #CommonLisp. But I highly doubt if I can find a #Lisp job anywhere!
@pixelschubsi @adbenitez @farooqkz @treefit
I'd like to see good #xmpp client for #KaiOS that can work even on 2G networks. Like my old Nokia E52 using Symbian S60^3 and Talkonaut to connect to XMPP network.
Regarding disaster of the decentral. services I personally maintain 2 different domains with services (one for matrix and one for xmpp) on differenet locations , each of which has also different DNS SOA providers. In case the authority DNS provider fails.
Considering that both #XMPP and #Matrix re-invented #decentralized communication while #email was already there, makes #deltachat more interesting.
The fact that DC didn't invent a new protocol for #InstantMessaging and just used the protocol which was already there, and also that how far has it gone, is mind blowing.
At first when I was chatting with @treefit, I already was developing a Matrix client(#chooj) for #KaiOS and it was the only decentralized IM which I was using and investing resources into. I was skeptical but then I thought it would be a good idea to invest into DeltaChat, as well as Matrix. His argument, of course, wasn't good. He was arguing that we need multiple options in the case one of decentralized IMs fail. However this convinced me to give DC a try.
But now, I see that DC has very unique advantages no other messenger has. Their moto is "playing the long term" game. Unlike Matrix which suddenly exploded, DC moves very slowly. As an advantage, DC is much more consistent, hassle free, has less bugs(in my experience) and has better UI/UX than many Matrix clients. But it has got several disadvantages. Matrix has tons more features which DC hasn't got or has added them just recently such as editing messages and reactions. And it is not yet suitable for public groups, like the ones we've got in the Matrix network.
Overall, if you want secure chat with friends or family or other people you trust, DeltaChat is a very good option and the experience is very good. And I haven't seen something like #webxdc in any other IM. However if you want something like #Discord guilds for a community, Matrix is the way to go.
BTW, DC currently lacks funding, thanks to what #Trump did with #OpenTechnologyFund(#OTF). If you can help in anyway, financial or otherwise, it will be extra valuable at this point.
Edit:
BTW, here are websites of webxdc and DC:
https://delta.chat
https://webxdc.org/
Edit2: Make sure to check WebXDC, apps shared in #P2P deltachat groups or DMs.
Sometimes I browse the #KaiOS phone catalog and imagine what #FirefoxOS could've been.
*runs into the #KaiOS repo on github and starts getting ideas*
Can anyone tell me whether #Kaios #featurephone support #CardDav and #CalDav?
They are two "killer feature" that make me leave #Nokia #SymbianOS years ago.
